What's the future for OWS?

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  1. CVA-60

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    Future of OWS? Aids, H1N1 or sicklecell hopefully. Fast acting strain.
     
  2. Agent Zero

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    Thanks for your insight.
     
  3. armor99

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    In my opinion... the OWS thing will continue to go on, until there start to be negative consequences for those that are active in it. It is easy to be "brave" and do all manner of things when there is really nothing negative in it for you. Which is pretty much the way it is for the protestors at the moment. Most of them look at this as some sort of party, or hang out event. The weather (untill recently) was nice, they were getting free (very high quality) food everyday. Got to hang out and chant, drum, defecate on cop cars, and pretty much do as they pleased with no negative blowback on them for being there.

    The instant that people are put in jail for trespassing (for more than just 24 hours), or the weather gets nasty, or the food vendors leave, or whomever is funding them all to be there (parents, political groups, etc) decide to turn the money tapp off.... then it will start to have negative consequences for them. And like most children (because mentally these are not adults), they will "take their ball and go home". Make no mistake about it.... these people are there.... because it is easy for them to be there.

    Sort of like all of the people that went over to Iraq from the US when the Gulf War started, to act as human shields against our troops. Sad that people do not even remember that this went on for a few weeks. And as soon as the bullets started flying, suddenly all of those people were not so confident in their convictions any more. They came home as fast as they could... and there was little if any negative fallout for their actions. If it were up to me.... I would have met each and every one of them at the airports as they came home, and issued them their court dates for their Treason trials.... but that is just me.

    Take any position that you want to take, and defend the causes that you believe are just. But you should take the good with the bad that comes from it. It would serve all of the protesters rightly, if all of the companies that they are after refused to do business with any of them ever again for the rest of their lives. I would LOVE to see that happen.... now that would be just....
     
  4. kilgram

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    Hahaha. No, never, yeah :p

    When OWS has much more support than any other movement. Yeah no one cares. LOL
     
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    WTG today to OWS Oakland for effectively shutting down the main port. I heard some businesses only took cash, some were closed, and bigger and better is planned. Excellent! If only we could make this nationwide all at once. :-D
     
  6. daft punk

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    101,000 followers for one tweeter not a trend?

    https://twitter.com/#!/occupywallst
     
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    http://occupywallst.org/

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    congratulations on the most stupid post, ever posted, anywhere.
     
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    Lol! Surely you arent that gullible? The Tea Party was set up to collaborate with and support the power in Washington. The power in Washington is simply an arm of big business, and the Tea Party is the billionaires party, everyone knows that.

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    It's just gettin' rollin'!
     
  10. Albert Di Salvo

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    What will happen to the young people of OWS? Look to history. With one exception all revolutionary movements are diverted, derailed and co-opted. They will change the existing order, but not in a way they anticipate. It has always been thus.
     
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    Unfortunately, I think that's a possibility. The rich aren't liking the movement too much and they do own the monopoly board. Now if they would just take their game and go away, we'd have something.
     
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    Just another boil on the buttocks of society. A group of mush brained dorks full of sound and fury, signifying NOTHING.
     
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    The OWS are in many cases the offspring of the hippy dippy good time rock and roll fagit infested sixties generation of dropouts and anti establishment losers.

    The future for these bottom of the barrel scum isn't so rosy. My ventured guess is that the majority of them will end up pooling their money (or pooling other people's money) together so as to purchase a one-way ticket to Europe where they'll have the luxury of backpacking through the mountains there until they find a final resting spot in some small village where they'll quickly join the socialism ranks of the unemployed and the underachievers, and where they'll gather together in righteous commune fashion around a broken down TV set to watch and mock the thriving capitalistic nation of America with its new Republican leadership in 2012.
     
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    /agent Zero.. this is an obvious, but still perfectly worthwhile, open-ended question which could/should begin an interesting discussion .. regardless of what that "Who Cares" imbecile writes.

    So, to actually give an answer/opinion of the question (which is what I imagined this site would be about when I stumbled upon it):

    I love the energy, passion and dedication shown by this wonderfully diverse group of people who have finally had enough of the circle jerk of power between corporations, government and the few select individuals in position to capitalize (ha ha) on the material rape and intellectual degradation that this sick system must necessarily produce in its slaves.

    Because I agree with most of the causes/positions that the OWS group has been able to articulate thus far, I am rooting for their success. I have however, become what I believe to be reasonably cynical with age, and fear that this will not produce the results hoped for.

    The most likely outcome in my opinion will be the gradual waning of interest, participation and momentum as significant results will be too slow to materialize.

    The other equally obvious, but not mutually exclusive, result that I fear is the systematic hijacking of the group's leverage by some better organized and thoroughly focused outside group, or subset of the OWS group, in an attempt to use this as a means to its own ends. Who this group will be, or what their objectives are, is certainly not within my non-clairvoyant purview. These usurpers, regardless of their composition, will undoubtedly sanitize and hollow out any messages or ideals at the core of these protests. While I imagine lip-service will still be paid to these original ideas, the power and danger of such a movement will not be left in the hands of any genuinely idealistic and selfless peoples. The motivation to capture such a potentially valuable prize will lead to a constant subversive assault on the seemingly weak structure in place to hold the reins of direction and authority in OWS.

    While I commend the dedication and passion so far apparent in these displays of frustration with an unjust and heartless system, the powers that be retain the option to employ the very resources and control that the 99% are fighting for.

    I understand that the organic growth of this movement cannot be rushed, and it appears as though OWS is holding its moral high ground (ie non-violence, attempts to include the contentious police in the 99%) while attempting to foster exposure and growth, but until this movement encompasses a much greater number of dedicated people, the resource difference between the two groups looks like a insurmountable obstacle to the revolutionary change these people seem to be hoping for.

    Consider the size, consistency and dedication of the Vietnam war protests and its inability to accomplish its single objective. This movement/group has many more, and much loftier goals, and a similar unclear paths to how to accomplish them.
     
  15. MissJonelyn

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    Except what you think everyone else knows it's merely an enhancement of your inability to actually form original coherent thought. Ignorance + Economic Illiteracy = one big indoctrinated fool.

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    If Kim Kardashian gets more news coverage in one day than #OWS does in two weeks, then no. No one really cares.
     
  18. daft punk

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    talking about yourself again?

    The Tea Party are just a bunch of suckers, they think they are anti-corporate, but they are just puppets for the big corporations.

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    Remind me of your expert opinions when the revolution tears up Wall Street.

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    How about some nice cartoons?

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    Draw over the La Raza & Mecha open borders advocates & GLBT/GLAAD crowd & the ELF wing of the Far Left and the Seattle type Anarchists and various othe groupds from the Base of the Democrat Party (Militant Union members & advocates & Liberal Teachers groups & folks from the Medical & Entertainment professions...) then ACT OUT with violence when fear of arrest is squelched by actions of Civic leaders & Law Enforcement .
     
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    is this in some sort of code or is it just babble?
     
  23. MissJonelyn

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    Can't be. One of us actually knows how an economy works.

    Is that why the TEA Party were against bailouts from day one and the "soon to be" Occupy Wall Street protesters supported bailouts from the very beginning?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/198445/why-are-liberals-backing-bailouts/stephen-spruiell

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html

    Face it, #OWS is a joke. They don't know what they want. They just know they want stuff. At least the TEA Party is actually consistent. The sole purpose of the TEA Party was to combat bailouts of any kind and government spending. There has been polling conducted which shows that the TEA Party is educated. More so than the #OWS. #OWS, They just go along with whatever is popular at the moment. This whole movement will die down just like the Iraq War protests did. Fading away to obscurity and irrelevancy. Which is why I abandoned the progressive camp years ago. Part of being a commie means never actually having to think for yourself.
     
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    why, thank you


    not true. You have things back to front. For example Sarah Palin did not oppose Bush's bailouts, whereas the CWI did.


    The purpose of the Tea Party is to back sections of big business, and stop Obama carrying out measures wanted by many people, eg aiding people who face losing their homes.

    The Tea party is not educated. It is a fact that Fox viewers are highly misinformed compared to most people, and it's well known that the left are more clued up.

    3 examples:

    1. "In a television interview Shirley Williams and Jim Callaghan acknowledged the growing support for Militant within the Labour Party. In unusually candid comments Callaghan stated on TV:

    We (the Labour Party) have neglected education. We’ve allowed it all to fall into the hands of the Militant group. They do more education than anybody else. (10)"

    https://secure.socialistparty.org.uk/militant/mil2frame.htm?ch16.htm


    2. Fox News Viewers Are The Most Misinformed: Study

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html


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    2% foreign policy! Lol!

    http://depts.washington.edu/uwiser/tp_content_analysis.htm
     
  25. PatrickT

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    OWS will, in 20 years, be fond memories for folks on the dole and college professors at liberal institutions.
     

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