What's wrong with elections based off of the Popular Vote?

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  1. BobbyJoe

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    Why don't you just leave if you don't like this country and can't tolerate things you can't tolerate? No one's stopping you.

    Bye.
     
  2. Belch

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    I'll be writing a strongly worded letter to my governor. I don't think we need you.
     
  3. BobbyJoe

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    And America doesn't need you, someone who is a hateful intolerant person who clearly hates what America is all about.

    So leave, no one is stopping you or your pals.

    Bye.
     
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  4. Sandy Shanks

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    Actually, in the EC the resident of North Dakota has more of a say than a resident of California.

    Well, in some cases, like two of the last three elections, the EC has ensured that the minority are ruling over the majority. For example, the election of 2016.
     
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    Not just my pals, but my state.

    There is no longer any value to be had from being part of the union.
     
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    So sorry you dont like America..
     
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  7. Belch

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    You would think this, but only if you didn't understand how the country works.

    Hey, did you know that not a single person in the UK voted for the prime minister? Nope, not a single person has ever voted for a prime minister because only their representatives are given a vote.

    Where in the entire world can you find a place that actually elects the top dog guy? Maybe some 3rd world countries, but most places don't.
     
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    Yeah, I'm hurt. I stated a fact Trump's fans would rather not deal with.
     
  9. BobbyJoe

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    Everyone in your state wants to leave the union?

    If that's true, than it's okay with me.

    What state?
     
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    Not everybody is necessary. All we need is a governor elected by the people to inform congress that we are leaving the union. Thanks, it's been fun, but it's no longer beneficial.
     
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    The UK has a parliamentary form of government. You are comparing apples to oranges. Not a single Brit voted for Queen Elizabeth, either. The Brits vote for MP's. The MP's select the prime minister. Because the majority decide on the PM, that is actually more democratic than the EC where a resident of Montana has more of a say than a resident of New York or Illinois.

    Did you know that the President is the only elected official that is not decided by the popular vote?
     
  12. BobbyJoe

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    Great, bye.

    I think it'd be easier if you just moved to Gilligan's Island by yourself.

    I knew you wouldn't answer what state.

    So what state?
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The graph didn't mean crap.
    It's not my job to convince every Tump hater of anything. If you can't figure out what's right and wrong on your own, can't balance the facts because you chose to ignore what you don't like- the problem you create is your own. I present views- people can, if they think it is appropriate, learn something from them or ignore them. But this garbage of challenging someone to convince you of what you don't want to see is childish.

    I'm not here to argue on a personal basis with every obsessed hater that comes along. They thrive on it, but accomplish absolutely nothing. They are looking for ego-feed. Little trophies they give themselves to say they won something, like the give at the special Olympics to shore up self-image..... but imaginary.
     
  14. Belch

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    Those that know won't tell, and those that tell don't know.
     
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    Based on the conversations I have heard, I believe I just figured out the real reason for the electoral college. A farmer in Montana has 1 1/2 times the common sense of a doctor or teacher in California.
     
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    Wait, the MPs select the prime minister, yes?

    Yes, you just said that. So is everybody an MP there?
     
  17. BobbyJoe

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    Like I said, I knew you wouldn't answer.

    That's a rightie thing.

    Well good luck with your new country.

    The rest of us will enjoy America and July 4th without ya!
     
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    Except the president isn't the Top Dog guy.
    He is head of only the executive branch.
     
  19. Belch

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    It's more of a 'not your business' type of thing. I disclose very little about myself on the internet. I provide arguments, and hope (usually without hope) that they can be taken as is.

    Why do you care what state I live in?

    See, I kinda know why because I know how lefties love to dive into irrelevancies in the hope that they can steer the conversation away from the actual topic. You guys are as predictable as the sun is hot.
     
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    You didn't take Americanist civics. You were indoctrinated into a Marxist worldview in terms of acquiescing to democracy.

    It is Marx who calls for democracy, not America's Founders.

    The Establishment began to rewrite the curriculum for public instruction almost 100 years ago. We were slowly morphed from a Republic into a democracy.

    Along with that transformation came all of the attacks upon our culture, liberty, changed definitions, victimology, etc.

    You were sold a bill of goods. You were indoctrinated.

    Not on the national level.

    The system was set up to prevent the FedGov from interfering in the lives of the citizenry. Democracy, of course, breaks down those protections.

    Democracies are inherently unstable, and always collapse. That we were deliberately changed over from a country rooted in the rule of law, to one where citizens like you were taught to care nothing about it, speaks to the evil intent of those in control.

    If you truly understood history and civics you would understand that.
     
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    I don't give 2 craps about YOU.

    You are talking about an entire state that wants to leave the Union.

    But you won't even say which state that is?

    The name of an entire state?

    You guys continue to crack me up. Talk about predictable. Just another giant hot load of cuckoo.
     
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    Does that really matter? He took the seat with the national win, county by county.. If the Dems don't try to win the hearts of those fly over country they will again fail at taking the seat....
     
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    Haha I love it! So true
     
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    But your silly state majority is irrelevant in a national perspective! Remember, those states, counties and folk you think shouldn't have a say by God better have a say! Their tax's, toil and when called apon bleed and lay their live down just the same as the FEW overpopulated states that think their ideology is best for everyone..

    To all the people in those few states, GET OVER YOURSELVES..
     
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  25. Texan

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    You were saying?
     
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