When assessing Trump’s guilt or innocence...

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, you guys wanted to impeach him for being a Russian agent and working with Putin to overturn our democracy. Whatever happened with that?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would be far more convincing if instead of trying to invent things about Trump, you and other leftists would spend time promoting your "imagined" superior ideology. It is way out of balance in what you promote. It leave us Americans wondering, "do you have any ideas that would improve our Nation?"
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exploring and resolving corruption was that favor. Are you saying that because Biden, a previous administration member, because he is now a candidate for Democrat nomination, is immune from corruption investigation? That would be very counterproductive to a search for integrity. Biden's integrity will be exposed anyway.
     
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    I never voted for a Clinton. They come from the same slimy cloth as Trump.
     
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    Let's face it, every President since Hoover has been the target of impeachment talks. It's part of the job. Trump is just more thin-skinned than most. Trump has this need to bark at every dog in the yard - its not the sign of healthy psyche.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the sign of someone that knows how to take on the establishment and win! Establishment hasn't learned how to take a punch.
     
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    It's the sign of being easily distracted. What happened to his "better health care" promise? It's lost in his twitter wars with Hollywood actors and pundits. His claims of being able to address the North Korean situation? Gone, because he can't pay attention to more than one thing at a time - and that for no more than a few minutes. Iran? They are literally a month away from having nuke material capability.

    And its not anti-Trumpers who are saying this. It's ex-staff like Mattis and Bolton and a dozen others.
     
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    I am promoting my ideology. What you call my "superior ideology" is that we must defend the purpose for which this country was founded, as established in its Constitution and, more specifically, in the Preamble, And that implies that a criminal should not be allowed to remain President of the United States. That's my only ideology.

    Do you have anything to argue against my ideology?
     
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    Not according to any witness, But regardless of what the favor was, it's still bribery and extortion. Even if it was about a long-ago debunked "conspiracy theory" that Trump says he believed.

    By our investigation agencies. Not by a foreign nation. And definitely not under the threat of not releasing funds they desperately need to fend of a foreign invasion which Congress had appropriated.

    And Trump's lack of integrity has already been exposed. That's why he's being impeached.
     
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    Well this is about Democrats and Republicans, not fake libertarians who don't have any skin in the game other than a "Don't blame me, I voted for blank" bumper sticker.
     
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    Who has worked on confronting China? How 'bout Nato paying it's fair share? You won't talk of accomplishments I see. The economy? You realize it is almost superhuman to accomplish anything with a media and House of Representatives plotting a "Coup" since the day of the election. You don't want to talk about Veterans finally able to get treatment other than the VA, or what about the "Right to Try" and receive drugs not yet approved to prolong life? He's paid an awful lot more attention to our Nations Problems than the do nothing Democrats. All they have done for over 2 years is try and overturn our election and that is a fact. Trump untied the hands of our military and destroyed the ISIS caliphate.....but you or the News media don't want to mention that!
     
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    He is a criminal because you say so. No one has even given a suggestion of that. Yet he defeated HRC a known but excused criminal and that is why you are upset. Your perceived notion is the only thing you mention. You fail to mention your intent seems to be to pave the way for a Socialist/Globalist Nation. A pawn for the establishment and George Soros.
     
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    When you say OUR you refer to the former administration working in cohoots with the Deep State. The same Deep State that turned their back on HRC destroying subpoenaed e-mails and Hard drives. The same deep state that overlooked the weaponization of the IRS, FBI and CIA. It is a ne administration and they have a right to re investigate. How does Hunter Biden, a drug addict, receive millions for a job he was not qualified for? Why does Pelosi, Romney, and others have relatives in the same Ukranian position? They make money and trade favors!....that's why.
     
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    Trump was given a mulligan for that... and what does Trump do.... he does it again as the President against his political rivals in 2020

    this time he will be impeached, no third chances - sorry
     
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    Clinton was impeached over lying about having a consensual affair....
     
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    I don't know. You know what they say, third fake news is the charm!
     
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    Actually it is not a Mulligan, it is moving the Goal Posts to attempt a Promised Coup!
     
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    ...Clinton was impeached because he lied to a grand jury; a felony.

    No, wasn't impeached for just lying to his buddies or his wife about getting some.
     
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    lol, no, when a criminal commits a crime and gets away with it, it's not called moving the goal post to go after them for the new crime they commited
     
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    yep, and that will never happen again as Trump has set a new Precedent that Presidents no longer have to answer questions under oath

    that said, would you be ok if under oath Trump was asked about his sexual affairs against Melania
     
  23. Lil Mike

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    What would be the legal reason to ask that, either by a grand jury or some sort of sworn deposition?
     
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    Ah! Of course! That's known as "The Lindesy Graham Defense"

    "I will not read the evidence, therefore, Trump is innocent"

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...best-trump-loyalists-can-come-up-with.564036/

    I didn't know that he had had Hereditary Rectal Cancer, and I'm happy for him that he beat it. But I doubt that this will help him in this impeachment process.
     
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    Oh, they are "sure" he is guilty, it's just when you ask them to cite the code of the federal regulations that he supposedly violated that they suddenly go stupid.

    Ready for the parade of rich Lefties that threaten to move when Trump takes 2020:

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