Whistleblower complaint against Trump declassified, could be released Thursday

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Yes grape just posted a quote with elipses in the middle when in fact the elipses cut out about 3 pages of text to make it sound like the "favor" thing had something to do with Biden. A blatant misrepresentation.
     
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    Asking who? Fusion? Did she hold up military aid for it??
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Yah the “facts” lol
    I think it’s a great idea to turn this into more of trump not trusting our Intel community. Please continue.
     
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    I think there are republican bureaucrat swamp dwellers who would file a complaint against Trump simply because they do not agree with him. I had one person I thought might fit the profile. After reading the professionally written 9 page Legal complaint however I am of the opinion that the person is partisan, strongly opposes Trump personally and has a considerable amount of professional legal assistance and support. This second hand person's complaint reads like a report with several references to third party previously published media sources. There has been mention that the person is a CIA operative. That could be about anyone, but likely a young aide (pawn) being used as a foil for a much darker first person or group.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now, you’re talking about schmuck ole Joe Bite_me...
     
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    Not a whistleblower.

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    There is no code word for the transcript. That's the point. It isn't highly classified.
     
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    The whistleblower complaint reads a lot like the Dossier. No direct knowledge, rumors, even media articles.
     
  9. MissingMayor

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    We have the phone call. We know aid was held up and no one knew why.
     
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    Yep, and the phone call does not back up much of the complaint. In fact it was not Trump that brought up Gulliani or Barr but the President of Ukraine.

    There is a deposition from a Ukranian how Biden pressured Ukraine by withholding 1 billion to stop the investigation into Burisma which Biden's son had a part of. Obama was chastised for not asking for foreign help to stop corruption but now everything is again 180 for democrats, like the wall, because of TDS.
     
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    Discussions between foreign leaders are classified and we know persons working in the White House have illegally leaked such conversations in the past.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    The several reasons have been stated and quite proper for a President to do.
     
  13. Egoboy

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    Well, I guess Trump needs to fire his personally appointed ICIG...

    Here's an idea... next time the ICIG speaks in open committee, have a Republican ask him about that section. You know, actually perform oversight instead of propagating BS... You bring up a good point and the ICIG needs to defend his determination.

    But, I would guess the ICIG was able to speak to some of the people who provided the info to the official whistleblower during his 2 week investigation.

    Can't wait to find out who those people are, so Trump can have them shot and increase his voting base...

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    Trump brought up Barr when he asked for a favor. Zelensky brought up Giuliani when he responded because Giuliani had spoken to Zelensky's assistant the day before the call to set up preconditions.

    Not exactly something to highlight.
     
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    "classified", not code word (highest level) classified. That system is reserved for secrets Trump leaks to Russians.
     
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    The complaint is hearsay and does not meet the standards of whistleblower.

    It is a second democrat piss dossier without the seven whores a'pissing.
     
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    We aren't at a trial phase yet. The whistleblower complaint was like a tip sent in to a hotline. Now we have direct evidence including the phone call, the dates the aid was withheld and released, and direct witnesses will be interviewed to tell us what white house officials and lawyers were doing and why. And Trump has told us that he, Mike Pence, and others have made additional phone calls. We also have Rudy showing us a message on his phone from the State Department on the matter.
     
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    There was never a claim of how many urinating girls there were.... are you whistleblowing on the Moscow Hotel encounter??
     
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    Its weird they keep bringing that up. The government never investigated that claim as we aren't interested in verifying foreign smears of US citizens or leaders. All we know about it is that Trump gave us a fake alibi.
     
  20. Egoboy

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    The working theory has always been - If any one piece of the Steele Dossier is untrue, it's all untrue... which isn't true..
     
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    All WH documents are classified until they are unclassified. WH documents are either classified or un-classified. There is nothing in between. No one except the president or the WH under his authority has discretion in determining otherwise.
     
  22. Egoboy

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    Sure there is... there's always levels of classifications, for people and information...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information
     
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    I am writing specifically about the category Classified, not Sensitive, Top Secret or other classification levels. Official WH documents have a classification level. Unless the classification level is changed to Declassified, it remains Classified. Some documents are released as Unclassified so that there can be no misunderstanding. There is no sort of classified or not so classified category.
     
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    Why would he do that?

    Everything is going perfect.
     
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    already been investigated, Biden's son did not even work at the company when the investigation started - this is fake news like the birther nonsense
     

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