White Ethnomasochism

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  1. Nationalist Protagonist

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    It is my belief, and has been for quite some time, that the reason white people are stricken with white guilt is because much of Western media is controlled by Jews who want the Western world to be multiracial and multicultural.
    Of course, such an idea is considered fringe, racist, and conspiratory. At best, this idea is brushed off along with the Illuminati, and at worst, people who believed it are considered evil.

    So today I'd like to ask those of you who disagree with this belief a simple question. If the Jewish media is not to blame for the white ethnomasochism that is so common in the West, then what is?

    Before answering, please view this video which not only gives a good idea of what's going on, but also dispels the myth that the reason Western countries take in so many immigrants from the third world is simply because that's what rich capitalist nations with falling populations do.


     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why Jews? Why not just 'people' who believe that and want that? Is it the genetics of Jews? Is it the beliefs of Jews? Do converts have such proclivities? Why Jews?
     
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    I think it's pretty unlikely that white people would create white guilt and ethnomasochism. What would be the reason for Whites to want to harm themselves that way? Yes, Whites are currently harming themselves with things like mass immigration and affirmative action, but that's because the media has brainwashed them to believe this is good. This means that some people, at some point, decided they would create and put forth the harmful ideology of white guilt. If it probably wasn't white people, and the Jews have a disproportionately high presence in the media, isn't it most likely Jews that are doing this?
    Whether Jews are doing this because of genetics or beliefs is up for debate. Personally, I think it's mainly a cultural thing. Jews are raised to believe that nationalism is dangerous in the hands of gentiles, because it will lead to another pogrom against them. So they turned nationalism into racism for Whites.
    I think there's also a strong jealousy among some Jews who, despite being taught to believe they're the chosen people, see that white societies are superior. And, of course, there are some greedy Jewish supremacists who are doing this because they know it's easier for Jews to gain power and control wealth in multicultural societies, where minorities controlling the banks isn't seen as a bad thing.
    It's not totally black and white, and obviously not every Jew is a Jewish supremacist. But these three things (Jewish supremacy, fear of nationalism, and jealousy) are common in the Jewish community.
    Do converts have such proclivities? Well, you can't really convert to Judaism, because it's an ethnoreligion. However, gentiles can become "supporters of the tribe," and those people will undoubtedly fight for Jewish interests at the expense of the rest of us too.
     
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    Whats with the anti semetism EVERYWHERE??? EVERY THREAD. I agree with your premise, but the string pullers are GLOBALISTS not tied to a specific ethnicity.
     
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    So why are the globalist string pullers trying to turn only the white nations into multicultural and multiracial nations? Why doesn't this happen in Africa or Asia?
    Why do Jews have a disproportionately high amount of power in American media and banking? If these are globalists, not tied to a specific ethnicity, this shouldn't be happening.
    Why does America's foreign policy put Israel before America itself?

    As for the question of why is anti-semitism becoming more common, I think that with the internet, more people are getting educated.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you find is determined by what you look for.
    Very few Jews today descend from Jacob. The vast majority of Jews today descend from converts to Judaism.
     
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    You may also be interested in a book titled Barren Metal by this author. It describes how capitalism itself is the driving force for these odd social changes that we see.
     
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    Yes, but it's a bit more complicated than that. Due to all of the pogroms against Jewish men during the Middle Ages, the Ashkenazi Jews almost went extinct. To keep that from happening, Rabbis decided that Jewish women were allowed to marry men of other ethnicities, and the children would be considered 100% Jewish. Usually the men in these marriages would convert to Judaism, though they still weren't consider Jews. Only their children were.
    So yeah, few Jews today are 100% of Israeli descent. But they are still Jewish in that they are culturally Jewish, and recognized as completely Jewish by the Jewish community. Also, marriages between Jews and non-Jews has once again become taboo among practicing Jews.
     
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    So why don't these odd social changes happen in other rich capitalist nations with dwindling populations, such as South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, and Israel? Why does this only happen in the white Western world?
     
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    The explosion of information now available is going to eventually make the reason why self evident to enough of the thinking population that it will be self evident. Think "the one hundredth money" observation. And we will be able to talk about with no fear of being called names.

    Chin up.
     
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    I just hope enough people care enough to take advantage of the information available, and make some political and social changes.
     
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    Intellectuals are well aware of the details and there are information control struggles. That's not the world I live in though. There is another source you might be interested in, though not specific to your OP, it is part of the zeitgeist of Zionist power. A big chewy book by Walt and Mearshimer, The Israel and US Foreign Policy. It's 11 years old, but it has made some changes in the halls of power.

     
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    There is one iron clad rule I've noticed on forums about such comments, and that there is nothing that can be done to shake the mind of an anti semite. You don't bring an argument, you bring a belief that's near religious in intensity. You literally said, "What would be the reason for Whites to want to harm themselves that way?" How can the only possible answer to that be "The Jews?"

    I can think of a lot of reasons that make far more sense that don't have anything to do with Jews, and that's even accepting your basic premise, that white people uniquely suffer from white guilt and ethnocentrism.

    Why don't you provide the transcripts of the meeting where "the Jews" figured this all out?
     
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    The people who hate western civilization are lefties. I don't think you have to go very far beyond that to find the truth. I can't really blame them for hating themselves, if I'm honest.

    It's not a cool ideological place to be, and I think deep down, they sorta kinda understand that. That explains the anger, hatred, and masochism that we see from them.
     
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    I think your post is evidence that "anti-racists" are far more stubborn, unreasonable, and self-deceitful.
    No kidding. I said in the beginning that my belief regarding the cause of white ethnomasochism is that the Jewish media created it. I admitted right away that this is my belief, and look at which part of the forum I posted it in.
    But religious in intensity? Not at all. If someone presents a better argument, then I'll change my belief.
    And actually I did bring an argument. In the comment you quoted, I explained my argument for why it's most likely that the Jews, with their power in the media, have created white guilt.
    I think the question I asked is very fair. Why would Whites create an ideology that harms them? How many ideologies are there that were created by the very people whom that ideology targets negatively? Seriously, name some.
    By the way, I honestly can't believe how many times you were wrong in those two sentences.
    Didn't say it was. I said it was most likely. And so far, nobody here has been able to offer a more likely answer. Would you like to try?
    I'm listening. And while you're at it, name some other races or ethnicities that suffer from racial/ethnic masochism.
    The Jews didn't all meet up in a secret room to plan this out. The creation and progression of white guilt is simply a result of the racism, jealousy, and fear of white nationalism that is so common in Jewish culture.
     
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    So how come this level of ethnomasochism is only present among white liberals? Why isn't it present among black liberals too? How come this hatred of one's culture doesn't exist in large numbers in Asia, Africa, the Middle East, or Latin America?
     
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    Because blacks aren't taught to hate themselves. The self-hatred is certainly there, but they are taught that it's the white man's fault they are where they are. So they hate whitey just as much as whitey hates whitey.

    Who the hell can we blame?
     
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    So it's not that all liberals hate themselves, it's that white liberals hate themselves and their race, and black liberals blame the evil white man.
    Again, this is unique in the Western world. In Nigeria, the liberals don't hate their race/ethnicity, and support political policies that would turn Nigeria into a multicultural shell of its former self. Sure, there are some Nigerians like this, but not anywhere near the levels in places like Germany or Sweden.

    Further more, this is absolutely not an exclusively liberal trait in the West. White conservatives see Whites becoming a minority as a good thing. They rail against illegal immigration, but welcome mass immigration into the West as long as it's legal.
     
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    I didnt know i was an ethnomasochistic conservative until you told me. I thought my views on immigration were simply, dont come here illegaly, otherwise your fine. Thank you for informing me how i really think.
     
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    It's kind of late and this topic is kind of weird. Most of the jews I've known have been staunch conservatives. I don't even think about them other than just I don't go to a synagogue or wear a funny bean cap. Other than that, never crosses my mind. I "read" that they mostly vote Dim-oc-Rat but I don't know why, it's not in their best interests. None that I know or nobody I know persecutes them other than kidding them for being overly frugal. I guess it must be the New York types and their migrants to south Florida that vote like the blind lemmings for asshats like Debbie Wasserman-Sgt-Shultz. Jews like her, would have better been left in Germany. It's funny but I've heard Israeli folks think our Jews are complete idiots, and have forsaken their roots and beliefs. But that's what I hear, and I don't know. I'm not Jewish so..........
    I've got no white guilt, and the whole white privilege is akin to some cuck letting his wife screw the neighborhood softball crew while videoing it. :roflol:
     
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    Moderate legal immigration is okay with me.
    However, how would you feel about so many Arabs immigrating to Austria, that the Austrians become a minority? The Arabs, now the majority, would transform Austria from a Western German-speaking secular democracy into an Arabic-speaking Islamic theocracy. Would that be okay?
     
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    and according to you i WANT that as long as its legal because of my white guilt? Have you forgotten what yot were talking about?
     
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    If you have white guilt or ethnomasochism, you either want it or you don't see anything wrong with it.
    And no, I haven't forgotten what I was talking about. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why this mindset is exclusive to Whites, if the answer isn't that the Jews created it.
     
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    I don't think you can compare left wingers from Nigeria or Japan or Hong Kong to left wingers in western cultures. They don't have the same values and culture. My contention is that our lefties know that things like free speech and property rights are good and noble values, but they've been brainwashed into believing that they are not. They understand that these are good things, but their tribe is saying it's bad. That creates internal conflict, and that conflict is where the self-hatred comes from.

    Blacks have been taught that nothing is their fault because of slavery, blah blah blah. it's a different culture, and they don't recognize european culture as their own, so there is no real internal conflict.
     
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    Anti-Semitic bigots are ignorant liars and worthless trash, petty little people who have nothing of their own life to prove their worth so declare their failures in life on Jews, the oldest bigotry in the world.
     

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