White Guilt?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Avery Jarhman, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a crock. Blacks have been selling blacks for thousands of years, to each other and anyone else who would buy them. They knew full well what was in store for them. Blaming whitey for the problems blacks created is pathetic. I never owned a slave, I'm not taking responsibility for anyone who did, that's idiotic. I don't hold individuals responsible for the crimes of their ancestors, I hold them accountable for their own actions. You should try it, then again, you'd have to look at yourself and not just blame all the problems of the world on everyone else...
     
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    I just don't understand liberals these days. They seem intently interested on trying to remediate a problem that hasn't existed in over 150 years. At least, not as far as how slavery exists within the United states. And yes, I get it, Republicans took their slaves away, and it still seems to sting them. Democrats, over the years have periodically attempted to reinstitute these burdens on the public, there were Jim Crowe laws, the separatism of Woodrow Wilson, et al. All of which required confrontational style upheaval in our nation to unwind.

    And now, we find ourselves in a time where the rights of all Americans are respected, and yet, liberals/democrats continue to campaign as if nothing has happened. That nothing has progresses. Now, that smacks of determined obstinance at some point, you have to ask the question, how long are they going to hold their breath? I mean, they're already blue in the face...

    And the dissonance we hear now is the willingness of liberals to opine the great evils of slavery (absent their active participation to remove it), and at the same times, these are the same folks who want nothing more than a porous national boundary without control that allows human bondage and slavery to continue in this country. I call that out because it isn't just that liberals feel it's a moral obligation to take in the weary and the downtrodden from around the world, they also seem entirely willing to ignore the human trafficking it allows.

    At some point, this must end. The immorality of elitist liberals who demand their cheap lawn care or maid services must stop, and the rest of us must demand that their immoral traffic of human misery end, once again. The Chucky and Nancy show must be held accountable then for the suffering and misery they are actively fomenting on every victim of human trafficking that enters our nation illegally and without protection. It isn't enough any more to simply ignore this immoral practice. We, the citizens of this nation have to declare and then enforce the laws of our nation, protecting both our citizens within, as well as those victims who are otherwise abused and enslaved all for the amusement and benefit of these immoral creatures.
     
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    Raffishragabash Banned

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    I think I'll go with Ann Coulter, over your analysis:

     
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    What does any of that have to do with taking personal responsibility (so that your kids won't grow up this way)?
     
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    nonesense. us whites enslaved blacks for 400 years generation upon generation, we had black babies born into slavery for 400 years and the slave masters had the rights to torture and murder any black person they owned. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WAS IN AFRICA so stop being ignorant and go learn about africa and how they didnt have a prison industrial complex like whites do no. Africans made their criminals and prisoners of war slaves where you could also pay for your freedom.
     
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    Yes, and? Plenty of people actually live through similar horrible stuff, but don't let past stop them from succeeding. In fact, past horrors make some people even more determined to get ahead. And since there are no obstacles to success other than ourselves (in the Glorious West .. where opportunity abounds), it's a sure fire recipe for success.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Why don't they take some personal responsibility? That would cure everything. You have simplified a complex issue.
    What other of the world's problems can you solve from your armchair?
     
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    It's not complex, unless you're trying to make excuses (for yourself or others). Work your arse off and spend less than you make until you're financially secure. No one will stop you, least of all white people - unless they're White Progressives, of course. White Progressives want you to stay helpless, as it gives them a reason for being.
     
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    Do you have evidence for this claim?
     
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    Mac...

    Your self-hatred is reaching unfathomable heights pal. Yes indeed.

    oh and I am LMFAO @ the idea that a so-called "Black man" would ask for proof or evidence that whites enslaved blacks for 400 years generation upon generation or need it verified that the slave masters had the rights to torture and murder any black person they owned.
     
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    This is simply not based in logic where you pretend that racism's evils which clearly happen today, really only happened in the past.

    Like Ann Coulter said, we have a current legacy of Slavery in the USA, so owe a debt to Black people. And our racist nation will remain, cursed, until we pay them what we owe them.
     
  13. Maccabee

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    Lol, I don't hate myself or my race. I just look at the facts.

    I was asking for evidence that Africa's slavery was different/better than ours.
     
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    Actually, you show over and over again, that you hate the facts.




    You already have proof, if you ever try to comprehend the factual info presented here over and over. But instead, you like to use your emotions to argue against factual info.

    So the responsibility here, is yours.

    Show us a place in Africa, any where, which calls itself a 1st World nation and still treats Blacks like the USA does treat Blacks vs the non-Black citizenry's treatment. Show us a place in Africa which practiced bondage or chattel-slavery, like what the USA's practice of it has resulted into.

    The argument we take is already proven, every day, when you look at the Legacy of slavery and how it still subjugates USA Blacks in 2018. So you are the one here with a deficient stance, yes you are the one who needs to show us readers which place in Africa treated Black people like this 1st-world USA nation has treated Blacks for 400yrs and counting.
     
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    Forcing a mantle of guilt on someone who has not committed the crime of which you accuse them, is a form of abuse.

    There are many who owe 'you' nothing, and will not wear your mantle. Face that fact.
     
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    Evidence?



    When have I used emotions? Asking for evidence rebutting/addressing the evidence you gave with statistics and my experience is not emotion.

    That's a loaded question. It assumes that blacks in the US are treated differently from whites as far as being discriminated against. Blacks in the US are treated no differently than whites. In fact in a lot of cases, they are treated better. But to answer your question, I believe South Africa is still feeling the effects of Apartheid.

    I assume you believe in the Bible as you keep using the word "satanic" and are aware of the story of Moses. If not, then here's a secular source.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
    How? I'm black and I dont feel subjugated. I'm not harrassed by police, denied jobs because of my race, or otherwise been discriminated.
    I did.
     
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    He's white.
     
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    White guilt is a term bigots like to use to justify their own shortcomings. I don’t feel guilt but rather empathy for black people who have been told they were inferior for hundreds of years and internalized the messages as well as white people.When someone is making fun of a handicapped person and you think it is wrong does it mean you feel guilty or does it mean you have empathy?
     
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    I have to say I do not believe for one second that you are black. Try hailing a cab in nyc.
     
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    TBH, I don't care what color they are.
    Laying, or attempting to lay, guilt for something that a person did not do, has not done, and had no control over when it did happen, is a pathetic attempt to make others feel guilty (or as in his particular statement) be paid for something they have not 'suffered'.
     
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    There has not been 400 years of slavery in the US, apparently you have an incorrect source for data. :)
     
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    If you want proof, PM me.
     
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    Oh I'm fully aware that racism is alive and well in 2019. The Progressive Left takes the prize, there. They're the most 'white supremacist' group on Planet Earth, just currently. They leave the National Front types in the shade, just on sheer numbers.
     
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    Seriously?

    ahahahahahahahahaaaaa ... that's priceless !
     
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    And are still being told that, by the Prog Left.

    In the meantime, less racist people aren't cutting any slack, because you don't cut slack for equals.
     
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