White House flags return to full staff less than 48 hours after McCain's death

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Max Rockatansky, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope.. Read the rules.. He CAN'T ever lie in state in the Rotunda.. He didn't earn that honor. McCain did.
     
    fiddlerdave likes this.
  2. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And don't forget x2 that Bush 44 and Obama are doing 2 of the eulogies.... Barack Obama.... The man who defeated him (and that noisy cow he picked as VP) for President will speak at his funeral at McCains request..

    And Trump will be doing whatever it is Trump does during the services and burial

    I guess Saturday is the key day here

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...-viewing-funeral-details-released/1105359002/
     
    Max Rockatansky likes this.
  3. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Messages:
    10,735
    Likes Received:
    16,643
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if a president (of the US) past or present dies the flag flies half staff for 30 days
    It flies 10 days at half staff after the death of the vice president, the chief justice or a retired chief justice of the US supreme court, or the speaker of the house of representatives
    for an associate justice of the supreme court, a member of the cabinet, a former vice president, the president pro tempore of the senate, the majority leader of the senate, the minority leader of the senate, the majority leader of the house of representatives, or the minority leader of the house of representatives the flag is to be displayed at half staff from the day of death until iburial.
    The flag is to be flown at half staff at all federal buildings, grounds and naval vessels in the washington, D.C area on the day and day after the death of a senator, representative, territorial delegate, or the resident commissioner from puerto rico. it should also be flown at half staff on all federal facilities in the state, congressional district, territory, or commonwealth of these officials

    upon the death of the governor of a state, territory or possession, the flag should be flown at half staff on all federal facilities in that governor’s state, territory or possession from the day of death until iburial.
    the president may order the flag to be flown at half staff to mark the death of other officials, former officials, or foreign dignitaries. in addition to these occasions, the president may order half staff display of the flag after other tragic events.
    the flag should be briskly run up to the top of the pole before being lowered slowly to the half staff position.

    https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/celebrate/halfstaff.pdf
     
    Merwen likes this.
  4. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    All presidents are guaranteed the honor, regardless of their efficacy and/or popularity.
     
  5. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages:
    25,361
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    he invented his 'war hero' status, then parlayed it into celebrity, power and fabulous wealth while routinely deceiving and betraying his own constituents and party.

    hardly anything to venerate.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2018
  6. Bisquit

    Bisquit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2014
    Messages:
    890
    Likes Received:
    361
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Don't worry about Trump. He'll probably be laid out in a tacky gold painted tent in the parking lot at the mall, with flashing lights, one of those blow up things with the arms flopping around, like you see at car lots, and an admission charge.
     
  7. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    24,471
    Likes Received:
    15,671
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He is so petty that he couldn't sleep knowing that the flag was at half mast, and he is so stupid that he probably doesn't know that the flag is lowered at night.
     
    fiddlerdave and FreshAir like this.
  8. AKS

    AKS Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    10,489
    Likes Received:
    4,769
    Trophy Points:
    113

    And yet we have precedent for half mast for longer periods of time. Gtfooh with your lap dog defense.
     
  9. Sage3030

    Sage3030 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2014
    Messages:
    5,540
    Likes Received:
    2,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Idk. It’s not my call. I can only affect me personally and how long I continue to show respect. I mean if you want to go down that road, Nancy should’ve had a way longer time than John Glenn.
     
  10. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Messages:
    12,354
    Likes Received:
    11,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok, I just read the rules. Trump can lie in the Rotunda. In fact, private citizens as well as government officials have had the honor. Trump can have the honor as well.
     
  11. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Messages:
    10,735
    Likes Received:
    16,643
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Go ahead and provide us the "rules" meanwhile here'sa list of who has Lain in State at the Capital.

    https://www.aoc.gov/nations-stage/lying-state-honor
     
  12. Sage3030

    Sage3030 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2014
    Messages:
    5,540
    Likes Received:
    2,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Idk. Just giving some numbers showing there is no set standard.
     
  13. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    41,205
    Likes Received:
    20,972
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The point being, if the POTUS wants to give McCain the bare minimum, then that's what he'll give him. Does that make it right? Subjective to opinion and in Trump's opinion he feels righteous about it. So there's very little complaining or pouting is going to do to change it.
     
  14. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,595
    Likes Received:
    6,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One is the president of the "free world."

    I think he bears a larger portion of the ethical and moral burden here.
     
  15. Sage3030

    Sage3030 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2014
    Messages:
    5,540
    Likes Received:
    2,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That they were. Still no set standard.

    I mean the victims in Brussels got the same amount of time as Nancy Reagan. Does that seem proper? Does that seem right? No, but again, no set standard.
     
  16. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    24,471
    Likes Received:
    15,671
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He was so petty that he couldn't sleep knowing that the flag was at half mast, and he is so stupid that he probably doesn't know that the flag is lowered at night.
     
  17. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,595
    Likes Received:
    6,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The only one pouting here is the pompous blowhard, inglorious fat bastard sitting in the WH, furious that he won't be treated with dignity and respect by an ex member of the military, who unlike the same pompous blowhard, had the balls to enlist and serve.

    Trump is mad because he got had.

    He's a **** and you know it.
     
    Ericb760 and fiddlerdave like this.
  18. Bisquit

    Bisquit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2014
    Messages:
    890
    Likes Received:
    361
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Nancy had 5 days. That's when she was buried.
     
    mdrobster likes this.
  19. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    25,394
    Likes Received:
    8,172
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed but that's a minimum and not the tradition for national leaders as others pointed out earlier.
     
  20. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,595
    Likes Received:
    6,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It doesn't matter. Trump can do no ****ing wrong, man.

    He was insulting all these bots and they don't even get it when he said he could shoot someone and not lose a vote.
     
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  21. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Lol - president of the free world? Errrr..... no.

    I want all my elected officials held to a very high standard. Sadly, we have close to zero of those.
     
  22. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    14,237
    Likes Received:
    4,758
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I do agree, for a POW, cowardly or not, they should stay half staff for at least the same length of time they stayed down a crack junkie.
     
  23. jwmac

    jwmac Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2016
    Messages:
    1,736
    Likes Received:
    825
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, that's the code....Don't like it? Change the code.
     
  24. Bisquit

    Bisquit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2014
    Messages:
    890
    Likes Received:
    361
    Trophy Points:
    63
    The flag remained lowered until Nancy Reagan was buried.
     
  25. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Messages:
    10,735
    Likes Received:
    16,643
    Trophy Points:
    113
    providing you with the half mast standard is a lap dog defense? lol,
     

Share This Page