Who Here Are Old Enough to Remember Back Alley Abortions?

How nice.

Do you vote?

Do you make decisions?

Do you support anything that someone else opposes?

Maybe you live in a cave, grow your own food, make your own clothes, and just come out to post on PF.

 

Your side chooses to enslave women, force illegal abortion on young girs so that many die and force life on people for whom there is no provision, so that they become criminals or commit suicide. The other side says it is wrong to turn human females into cattle bearing replacement-animals for the evil who exploit us all. Self-righteousness is a very terrible drug: give it up!

 

That's only if you believe that women are 'stooopid' which I don't.

 

Then why do you want to stop them from making their own decisions?

 

OK....All the more reason to teach girls to be more responsible about letting a boy's penis into their vaginas. You forget that a man's sperm-virility plays a significantly more important role as we grow older. If a woman is 35 and gets inseminated by her 'boy-toy' her chances of getting pregnant would be much higher.

 

Unfortunately, most people do not realize how short is our life in this Universe, and most of them continue to believe that nothing is there (next, after it), that there will be no judgment of our bad actions, no evaluation of our behavior (our life on Earth).

The fact is that we were not asked if we want to live or not in this Universe, in other words, we did nothing (no contribution) to appear on Earth, so that it is why we do not own our life, but Someone else do own it and He will decide who deserves to continue (or not), at the higher level (after we die).

Therefore, in my opinion, all who can make any crime generally (not only abortion) are people who do not believe in God and Jesus Christ (in spite of the fact that many of them may say that they believe, or that they are Christians, but in fact they are not truly believers).

 

You believe they are so stupid that you can force them to bear unwanted children, surely? It isn't women who are stupid chum.

 

Please post a quote where I said women should be forced to "bear unwanted children" you are lying 'chum.'

 

IS there a specific reference to that? Do you have something to cite where someone is actually saying that? Or, are these some distorted perceptions; hair on fire to those who want more restrictions on the current system.

The lack of said citations will pretty well establish whom are "these numnutz."

 

I thought you believed in abolishing choice. If you are for choice I apologise.

 

The perceptions are not at all distorted.

If restrictions are placed on abortion, then there will be a return to the bad old days when back street abortions were common.

What do you think about it yourself?

 

I am for choice. But that word has been corrupted to mean choosing abortion by the pro-abort industry. In America, SCOTUS has ruled that women have the right to privacy and that is the law.

My point is (and has always been) that women are taught from the time they are little girls to consider abortion a contraceptive option and that it is a fairly benign procedure. This is a lie that has been perpetrated by pro-aborters through the media and public schools that now allow young under-age girls to get an abortion without their parent's consent.

Besides giving birth the BEST choice is always pooh poohed by the pro-abort crowd and that is to teach girls to respect themselves and be responsible and not let a penis into their vagina until they are in a loving, committed relationship. Most parents try to do this but are undermined by both the popular media and public education the, pro-aborters point and say "they're going to do it anyway" so lets give them condoms and abortion.

 

Doesn't have any connection with any world I live in, I'm afraid. I've never come across anyone who regards abortion as a 'contraceptive option'. I've never met anyone who is 'pro-abortion' either - just people in particular situations where it seems the only sensible option. It is not a pleasant process even in civilized countries, and certainly not where the totally insensitive are going all out to demonise young women. It seems to me that the last thing all this bullying will do is help people to 'respect themselves': the whole business is about dominance, as is all too evident.

 

Great post ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

No, it is just that most people do not share your belief systems and do not WANT to share them

 

Worth repeating

 

I think this deserves a call for proof

Prove that "women are taught from the time they are little girls to consider abortion a contraceptive option and that it is a fairly benign procedure."

I do not live in your country so if there are advertisements or school curricula backing this statement up then I would be interested to see it

Otherwise retract it for the condescending misogynistic claptrap that it is

 

Since 2008 there have been 3,322 abortions PER DAY, are you telling me that ALL of those are the result of a significant threatening health situation of those women?

Democrats are pro-abortion...They just like to hide it with the phrase "pro-choice."

Young women who think abortion is a form of contraception have been brainwashed from the time they were little girls. The real 'demons' are the pro-aborters who propagandize our youth and pretend that their hands are tied because of their 'they're going to do it anyway" mentality. Frankly, I think some pro-aborters just want to sexualize our youth at younger and younger ages so they can have sexual access to the young.

I see, so teaching a young girl NOT to have procreational sex before she is mature enough to have a committed, loving relationship is somehow 'bullying' them in your highly estimable opinion?

 

I cant understand why we should not do BOTH - teach young girls not to have procreational sex (sex without protection) before they are mature enough to have a committed, loving relationship, and at the same time allow abortions for cases when these teaching fails and unwanted pregnancy results.

Why are you implying that by allowing abortions we want, or force women to have irresponsible sex?
Do emergency services after car crashes imply to you that we want people to have traffic accidents?
Your logic does not make sense.

 

It is not my "belief system", it is the fact that most people are still choosing to act more like stupid animals, or even lower (denying education, Jesus Christ, God; anything may restrict them from living just instinctively, like stupid and evil parasites, hurting the good/educated people who have worked hard over time and work today to improve human life, to honestly produce goods, food, services etc., more than that, quite many of them agreeing to kill the unborn yet children, even if these children could become better humans in the God's eyes), so that I totally agree with the following quotation:

"people should never fight against each other but only against their lack of useful knowledge.

That is why education is very important!"

... abortion being just a consequence of human stupidity, and it is not wrong to realize that "stupidity is the main cause of all bad things" (specially about human behavior).

This is my last post/message on this subject. All the best!

 

It's unfortunate that some people do believe that, just as they believe that routinely giving young girls the human pappillomavirus vaccination will encourage them to be promiscuous.

It's mind boggling.

 

Cervical cancer has nothing to do with abortions or promiscuity but for some reason, cons think that as soon as a girl has the injection, she'll start spreading her legs for every Tom, Dick, and Harry.

 

Welcome to my DBR list - Don't Bother Reading

 

I remember. All that I was aware of were performed by doctors, though. They were, then, illegal but they were performed by doctors and the myth of the "back alley" abortion was the meme for the left. The first abortion referral I was aware of was made by a police officer and was a referral to a properly licensed doctor.

How can any woman say killing an unborn child is reproductive rights? Has the brave new world really arrived where war is peace? Maybe that's why murdering a husband is considered a dissolution of marriage.

 

your own side says that stats haven't changed with the legality of abortion, there are the same amount whether it is legal or not.

and back street abortions were never 'common' or they wouldn't have been news now would they?