Who Here Are Old Enough to Remember Back Alley Abortions?

Churchmouse, you are TRULY doing GOD'S WILL..............bless you sister. Bless your heart.

 

Bless you…..and all those who see and value the lives in the womb. Remember this…..

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first."

It is an honor and privilege to be the Lords and stand up for the Word.

 

Haha this from the guy who said,

Strange how you permit abortion if a woman gets permission from her father or husband...

 

No it isn't dear. You're going to continue to be able to murder your unborn.

 

Let G-d do the judging and let the born take care of those who are already born. Get it????

 

witch. Of course EYE didn't say that. Muslims would call someone with that attitude witch and then proceed to stone ya. Be ever vigilant.

 

Not quite true. They think death is better for innocent unborn children but will fight tooth and claw to prevent their own death.

 

oh wow. It just occurred to me. MOST probably all thru the ages, women who performed abortions on young women in those circumstances didn't do it for their love of humanity, they did it for a price. And i'll bet those woment that performed those abortions WERE practitioners of the Dark arts. and i'll bet they found other uses for those teensy body parts. don't you? The more things change the more they stay the same.

 

You got that right.

 

Spoken from a person who thinks that a viable…child getting ready to naturally be born at nine months….should be killed if the mother does not want it.

Now that is about as cruel, horrific, immoral position as I have ever heard in MY ENTIRE LIFE. You OWN IT….and YOU ADMIT IT.

Nothing anyone has said on this site equals that…nothing. So you have no room to talk.

 

Women do not have abortions in late-term because they WANT them. That has been explained to you ad infinitum. But since you cannot get off your obsession with late-term abortions, which constitute less than 1% of all abortions, I will continue to post the same answer ad infinitum: Women do not have abortions in late-term because they WANT them.

 

Yet you seem to agree with a man who has stated that children are property, that women are property to men, and that abortion is acceptable only if the woman is granted permission by her father or husband. You agree with all of these things? You have come to me and asked why I have not spoken up to other choicers on this forum for their stance on late term abortions...now I would like to ask you, why are you not speaking up to this person? Is it because you agree with the things he has said?

 

Abortion is still not permissible if a TRULY CHRISTIAN FATHER allows an abortion after rape or some disgrace. He should still be charged with a crime. But, we all must recognize that TRULY CHRISTIAN FATHERS have something to protect, and something worth protecting, which is the chastity and virginity of their TRULY CHRISTIAN DAUGHTERS. This is the only "legitimate" type of rape.

Liberal daughters are sluts, because liberals teach their daughters to have sex as early as possible. Liberals hate virginity and chastity, which is why liberals don't understand rape. Rape only counts to women who RESPECT THEMSELVES and RESPECT THEIR OWN BODIES. Most young girls these days, do not respect themselves or their bodies, and have sex with scummy men. Many young girls have sex, willingly, with criminals, deviants, and other liberal men.

Any self-respect woman should close her legs tight when liberal men are around. Liberal men should never be given permission to have sex with conservative women. Conservative girls and women have REAL VALUE, HIGHER VALUE, liberal girls and women DO NOT HAVE VALUE. They have a lesser value.

Liberals love the abortion industry, because they secretly hate themselves. They live lives of SIN, guided by SATAN, and hate being responsible for themselves and their actions. They're like children who refuse to grow up. Liberals are sterilizing themselves. Liberalism can only persist based on the RAPE of conservative women, who try to keep liberal slime away from them. THAT is legitimate rape.

Women going around, dressing like whores, acting like whores, getting drunk in public, getting "raped" in the public bathrooms, and having free abortions provided by Zionist propaganda.....that is illegitimate rape. That is SIN. That is destroying our ONCE GREAT NATION. If women want to act like whores, and practice SIN, then the price will be paid eventually. We are seeing this price with this Second Holocaust of our Christian nation.

 

Property….of course they are until they are legal. I am responsible for my minor children…they are mine. Of course they really belong to God…but by the worlds standards they belong to the father and mother who usually have custody. I believe the father (male) is head of the household. And if he does what God commands him to do…then the woman is on a pedestal and he loves and cares for her almost as he loves God. No Christian man would ask his wife to abort…so toss that question out. Abortion is murder…it is killing. My husband respects my input…as I respect his. Most the time we discuss something and come to a common solution…but he is still the head of our household and I respect that.

Who am I suppose to speak up to? I speak my mind no matter who is posting.

 

at this time, i'm willing to bet that 'back alley' abortions are as big a figment of the leftist mind as are the lies that PP does mammograms and rapes result in many conceptions.

 

Not talking about just Christian men and women, talking about ALL men and women. Do men own their wives and if they tell them to abort is it acceptable? And what makes you think that no Christian man would tell his wife to abort? I sense a No True Scottsman Fallacy around the corner... lol

I don't understand how people can think that they OWN their children. You are the guardian of the child, you are responsible for them and their well-being but you do not OWN them. Children still have their own legal rights as well. You cannot abuse them or throw them away or sell them like you would with a physical piece of property. What a bizarre concept...ownership of children.

 

You should never have children.

Besides, even if you did have children, they wouldn't be yours, because you don't own them. You're just a child though, I can tell. Reality will send in during your birth pangs and labor. After a young girl gives birth to her first baby, you will begin to understand the meaning of OWNERSHIP. Biological parents OWN their children. If this is false, then "kidnapping" is technically impossible, since nobody "owns" anyone. If two parents didn't OWN their children, then there would be nothing wrong with any stranger taking them away and using children to his own device.

Liberals are crazy and do not have common sense.

 

If parents OWN their children then legally selling them or throwing them away would not be a problem.

Obviously the legal relationship parents have with their children is something quite different from ownership.

I believe liberals have quite a bit of common sense when it comes to social issues. I do question their desire to expand the federal government on other issues though.

But may I ask what being a liberal or not has to do with the discussion at hand here?

 

Liberals are completely removed from comprehending morality….when it comes to most social issues. Pro-abortion….pro-same sex marriage….anything goes for the most part. So don't throw the morality and liberalism together…its oil and water. The most INTOLERANT PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

 

Like someone said…liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

Ownership? My husband did not give birth to me. I did not give birth to him. We are both adults. We love and respect each other and when we married we became one…we are ONE in the eyes of the Lord. My husbands body is mine, mine is his. For people who are not Christian they can't comprehend this…because their views are from the world…devoid of the Holy Spirit. Marriage is living out Christian discipleship.

"He who finds a wife finds a good thing,
And obtains favour from the Lord" (Proverbs 18:22).

"Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control" (1 Cor. 7:3-5)

"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Saviour of the body. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for it, that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, that He might present it to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that it should be holy and without blemish. So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.' This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband" (Eph. 5:22-33).

HUSBANDS LOVE THEIR WIVES LIKE CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH…WOW this is great love. How many men do this?

Sure children have legal rights….especially if they get bozo parents and abuse them. Rights can be taken away. And God will surely discipline the parent that abuses their children…He loves children. What boggles my mind…the way you are defending children…not like you I must say. You are content to allow mothers to kill especially when they are viable. LMAO

As I said…your morality all over the place.

 

Synonyns for own:2.= possess, have, keep, hold, enjoy, retain, be responsible for, be in possession of, have to your name • So yes, we do own our children but the good parents act as God does. We love them, we provide, they need to do as we say so in that sense we own. but it is an ownership that is benevolent and loving.

 

The most intolerant people in the world and at the same time you mention same sex-marriage as being immoral. You want to deny gay people the right to marry who they love. And you call those who support it intolerant? You mixed that bit up there. The ones who don't support it and who actively fight against it are the intolerant ones.

 

Perhaps you should direct this response to Heretic. He is the one who said that men own their wives, not me. He never said anything about a woman owning her husband's body though. Only that men own their wive's bodies because woman are emotional and irrational or something along those lines.

I don't know why it is so mind boggling that I would defend the rights of people.

You obviously do not understand my position. I am going to copy and paste a quote from another thread where I explained my position in great detail to a lifer who legitimately asked me why I believe what I do without making assumptions. I have a great deal of respect for him because he was not condescending or rude or skewing and misrepresenting my position.

http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/254995-abortionist-19.html#post1061580994

Also what you fail to understand is that no woman will have a late term abortion on a whim. This has been repeated to you ad nauseum and yet it still doesn't seem to be sticking in your mind. We want no laws on abortion purely for the fact that late term abortion laws only delay a woman in obtaining a very much NEEDED abortion for a fetus who has a fatal abnormality, for one that is already dead, or to save her life. There is no reason to make a suffering pregnant woman suffer more by forcing her to jump through legal hoops to obtain an abortion she was hoping not to have at all.

But no, please just ignore all that has been said and continue to skew our position. That's so much easier to do than to actually address the arguments put forward, right?