Who on the left or Anti Trumpets here will denounce Antifa or all violence?

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently too would the antifa, as they seek to suppress the opinions of the Nazis with violence.
    Surely you oppose this - right?
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Clearly, you identify with them and aren't afraid to use your ancestry to make a point -- why should I not consider it so?
    Somehow, there's a difference.
    Ah! A little "separate but equal" - eh?
     
  3. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems you aren't afraid to use your ancestry to make a point either. I identify with jews when confronting jew haters. I identify with muslims when confronting Muslim haters. I identify with the victims of bigotry when confronting bigots.

    One thing I sure as hell don't identify with is scumbag nazi white nationalist and that IS MY FRIGGIN POINT


    I urge you to somehow research and then contemplate how substantively different the two are.


    YES!!!! Give them what they want, by doing unto them what they wish to do unto others. I find great intellectual symmetry in that.
     
  4. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I too seek to suppress Nazis from expressing their opinions publically. Wanna all get together for a goosestepping hatefilled hoedown somewhere out in the boonies where you can all revel in your genetic purity? No problemo. Wanna get all gussied up and march under Nazi flags screaming racist slogans in urban public spaces attempting to intimidate or incite those you hate? If a slap up side the head is necessary to get them to **** and get outta dodge, I see that as morally acceptable.
     
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    A statement drowning in ignorance and/or dishonesty as you have no idea what my ancestry is.
    You agree he has exactly the same right to free speech as you, and you agree his right to free speech should not be suppressed with violence - so yes, you do.
    Feel free to explain it , in detail,. as you believe there is.
    Only a racist would support forcing "seperate but equal" on a group of people.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Why do you believe Nazis do not have the right to free speech that you do?
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh? so my guess that you are a white boy is incorrect?

    wow what a display of not getting the point. Is this deliberate on your part or is your vision clouded by your ideology?

    I don't "believe" there is a difference between a camp and a reservation, I know there is a difference. ya see it all has to do with definitions. Perhaps you should examine those definitions yourself since clearly you lack knowledge of them.


    You confuse my bigotry against neo-nazis and white supremacists/nationalists as racist when in fact it is bigotry against scumbag ideologies. But then again in my experiences nunace isn't a tool often found in the neo nazi/supremacist arsenal.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe everyone has the right to free speech. like i said, i couldn't care less when nazis express themselves to each other in their little hatefilled meetings. Wanna get together at a party? go ahead and spew vile.

    Want to march under a swastika screaming nazi slogans in public places while carrying torches, assault rifles, tear gas and riot gear? Seems the nazis came prepared because they knew their mere existence is an incitement to many. They WANTED the violence. Their wet dream is RAWA.

    You think a group of scumbags should be allowed to preach RAWA? I dont'
     
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    Too bad there wasn't a large contingent of Antifa like outfits in the early '30s in Germany. They could have confronted and no doubt beaten up the gutless bully Nazi mobsters. Could have saved Germany, Europe and the rest of the world a lot of grief if you ask me. Here in America, there have always been small cadres of stupid, ignorant hateful idiots like those that reared their heads in Charlottesville. It's nice to see sane people out there challenging these morons at every turn. Otherwise, if left unchecked these rotten,mean, small dicked, loudmouthed buffoons could grow into a force to be reckoned with like the pack of scum Hitler put together.
     
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    "White boy" is my ancestry?
    LOL
    Whatever you're fishing for, you have neither bait nor hook.
    I got the point, in full. You don't understand the implications of the point you made, however.
    Feel free to provide same.
    Either way, you want to round 'em up and put them somewhere else.
    Just like Hitler did to your people.
    Just so long as you're clear you act on bigotry - making you no different than the people you oppose.
     
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    And yet, you support using force to suppress speech you don't agree with.
     
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    As someone else pointed out we already have White reservations. They are called "suburbs."

    I live in one of these White reservations and to your disappointment it is very pleasant. Low crime, friendly neighbors and a wholesomeness right out of Norman Rockwell.
     
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    Any thoughts??
     
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    And hilarity ensues.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope already caught it.

    Sadly you actually believe that despite complete lack of evidence.

    No more like the Allies and a guilty world officially giving part of palestine to the jews.
    that's what they wanted. That's what they got (more or less)/

    I think the solution to white supremacists and neo nazi scumbags polluting our communities is to give them EXACTLY what they want.

    Not that you'd see the rather stark difference, but I am bigoted against those who hold certain IDEOLOGIES of hate and exclusion, whereas those I hate, are bigoted based on the accident of their birth coupled with excessive tribalistic needs and emotional feelings of inadequacy. They had no say in either their genetics or family station yet that seems to be how they principley define themselves and others.
     
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    Who was it who said: The best revenge is living well.
     
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    Now I understand why you are so afraid of small dicked, loudmouthed buffoons. You cannot counter their point of view.
     
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    Bigotry is bigotry; your self-described and self-admitted bigotry is as bad as those you oppose.
     
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    Amazing that you fail to understand that there is a moral difference between hating haters and hating some innnocent person due to the accident of their birth.

    Well, at least I'm not trying to convince people that I am not a bigot. Are you at all familiar with the term "courage of one's convictions"?
     
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    Nowhere near as amazing as your belief that your status as a Jew and the victimhood that follows it allows you to claim that your bigotry is good bigotry.
     
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    I am not a jew. YOu seem to have a fixation on this for some reason. Oh, wait of course, you assess "jewishness" like ol' addie and the boys did since that works so much better than a jews version of who is a jew.

    When my bigotry confronts the poorly veiled bigotry you demonstrate, then you are damn right my bigotry is good bigotry. Much better than yours even if I'm using the "my bad is better than your bad" excuse!!!!
     
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    I only know of your Jewish ancestry is you use it to try to solidify a point you could not otherwise make.
    That is. you were a Jew when it was convenient for you to be - and so, you are a Jew.
    As such, you use your status as a victim to claim your bigotry is "good bigotry", as you freely admit.
    Reasoned, thinking people know better.
     
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    Then you don't know much.

    I have NEVER claimed to be a jew. EVER. I have stated clearly that my paternal grandfather was a jew. One out of four grandparents.

    What status as a victim? Oh wait of course, as a jew hater you think all jews have some sort of "victim status".

    Reasoned thinking people sure do know better when it comes to your doing you damnedest to avoid admitting to your own bigotries despite them being on display for all htose reasoned thinking people to see.

    Rocket science it ain't.
     
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    so you follow the nuremberg laws. Nothing like screaming from inside the bigotry closet. Care to come out? Nah, of course not.
     
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    I have yet to see any evidence that Antifa is the "left"
     

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