Why are Christians so Mean-Spirited?

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  1. Dale Cooper

    Dale Cooper Well-Known Member

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    Here...let me help you with what you accused Christians of:

    hate or anger....it seems these are the only 2 emotions Christians have since they're always on the tip of their tongues....

    That's an accusation. Not a rumor. Not a report. An accusation.

    Again, the one showing hate and anger is...............You toward Christians.
     
  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of your links discusses preferential tax treatment for Churches. This does not really have much to do with monuments but I get what you are saying as per some of the other links where some religious memorial is in place.

    I do not like the "Political Correct" movement either for the most part. The point I am making is that this monster is a creation of the religious right.

    The intent of the founders was that religious beliefs were not to be forced on people by making laws. It is true that no laws have been made forcing folks to pray, but there are many other laws on the books based on religious belief and the religious right continues to try and force their beliefs on others through law ... be it the last 53 years or the last 100.

    Prohibition - (the temperance movement) was a religious movement. Preachers were going around the US preaching to crowds and of course in local parishes that "Alcohol was a tool of the Devil" "Satan's Brew" and other such nonsense. While this ban was repealed, other things such as Pot which was also banned is still in effect.

    Abortion, Gay Marriage, Sodomy (which includes oral sex) law, while not enforced still on the books in Texas.
    Divorce law in this country is ridiculous ( An odd union of the Religious Right and Nazi Feminists)
    Prostitution is another example and Porn - while unsuccessful they still tried and in fact there are laws about topless dancers and so on.

    Belief in freedom is not about belief in freedom only for things you might agree with. Belief in freedom also means believing in freedom for things you personally disagree with.

    There is a difference between having a belief, and forcing that belief on others. In particular forcing a religious belief on others by getting the state to make laws.

    The Golden Rule "Do unto others as you would have them do to you " was said by Jesus to be the "rule which sums up the law and the prophets".

    Confucius also professed this rule as did Hamurrabi in the oldest known law code. This rule underlies the Rule of Law and is the foundation of our justice system.

    If you do not want others forcing their beliefs on you, then don't be forcing them on others.

    The religious right chose the path of forcing their beliefs on others through law. Unfortunately they succeeded in many ways.

    What the religious right did not count on is that when they started doing this it opened the door for others to do the same.

    Lack of respect for individual rights and freedoms is now a plague in this country. The religious right is not completely to blame for this but there were walking hand in hand with the other groups that were bent on destruction of these rights through adoption of fallacious Utilitarianism.

    This post is long already so I will not get into what fallacious utilitarianism is unless you request.
     
  3. Giftedone

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    These days the definition is a bit complicated but in general someone calling themselves a Christian is most often someone who neither understands nor follows the message of Christ.
     
  4. Tram Law

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    How is this any different than those immoral soulless mindless unintelligent uneducated liberals?
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Considering the topic of this thread, the difference should be quite obvious even to one who hijacks for fun.
     
  6. yguy

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    No Christian should vouchesafe the OP a response before he explains how the hell they're supposed to permit or deny to homosexuals a status they're not the least bit interested in attaining in the first place...

    ...which means, of course, that no Christian should vouchesafe the OP a response, period.
     
  7. cupid dave

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    Christians are pretty mild about the Gays and lesbians, aren't they?
    I mean, in comparison to the muslims?
     
  8. cupid dave

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    Hmmm,...
    Sexual promiscuity, in America, has made Islam focus on attacking us here.

    These muslims are doing exactly what the early Hebrews did when neighbors started teaching their kids to be sexually immoral.
    It is like a disease, in that sexual immorality amongst the teenagers spreads easily and quickly.

    This beings a program quickly develops Welfare, millions of abortions, abuse of fatherless kids, high violent crime rates, and enemies which hate nations that are sexually promiscuous,... like Islam does now.
     
  9. Critic

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    This is a common misinterpretation. Christians don't believe in gay marriage because they find it immoral. I said this in another thread just recently and I'll say it again. Picture the most immoral thing you disapprove of and imagine it being legal. That's how they feel in a nut shell. Plus, according to their religious, if you are gay it practically means you are going to hell. So they think by persuading gays to be straight, they are saving them damnation. And I agree with Cupid. Muslims are far more severe about it than Christians. Christians merely disapprove. Muslims kill.
     
  10. FreshAir

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    Christians are the same, not wanting to allow other religions to share in the "history" monuments making, some even want to put 12 foot crosses along the side of the road, out the ten commandments in our court rooms, both sides have their nuts, just there is more of the Christian nuts because there is more Christians, example.... Christians denied Wiccan solders to honor their dead until just a few years ago.... another example is same gender marriage and protesting funerals.....


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    "Controversial Ariz. Pastor Sparks Anger by Saying 'Gays Should Be Executed'"

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/b...believe-every-word-says-arizona-pastor-99583/

    "Police: Killer invoked Old Testament in 'stoning' death"

    http://articles.philly.com/2011-03-18/news/29142081_1_stoning-death-court-documents-police

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  12. FreshAir

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    but you could use that same logic to ban all religions other then Christianity, I mean look at the ten commandments "Thou shalt have no other gods before me", that religious law is much clearer then the one you are mentioning, it's one of the top ten

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  13. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The hilarious thing is that the atheists who demand that such artifacts be removed are actually following part of the First Commandment.
     
  15. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That attitude seems to be in compliance with God's. He hated minorities as well and was always disrupting their peace and tranquility.

    - - - Updated - - -

    That's only part of the First Commandment.
     
  16. Critic

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    Thou shalt have no other god before applies to everyone, but to Christians it means they should only worship him, it doesn't mean they should kill those who don't worship God. And I will not even click the link to those articles, because if that pastor did say gays should be executed, he is not legitimate. Take time to visit a few churches and you will be able to tell which are legitimate. Plus, I notice that many who criticize the average Christian use what I'd call 'poser' Christians as a standard. It's sad how dramatically a few bad 'Christians' reflect on the Christian community. Also, the average person who criticizes them hasn't even gone to church enough to get a solid idea of what Christianity is all about.
     
  17. FreshAir

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    as an Atheist that denies Jesus, you tell us?
     
  18. FreshAir

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    the point was you can support religious freedom in this country even with "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" and support same gender marriage

    just because you support freedom and free will, doesn't mean you support what other people believe
     
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    Answer a question with a question? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing atheist genius. I do not associate with atheist movements. Nor do I associate with lawsuits with the collective atheist victims.....

    Whats wrong freshy, not so fresh?

     
  20. FoxHastings

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    CRYING about atheists do this , CRYING that atheists do that, crying , crying....:)

    Toefoot : """"That same atheist will go to the gay thread and say gays should be respected and equality is final in the eyes of the law...... and constitution.

    Then that same atheist will now enter another thread and say abortion is a woman's private choice over her body....

    And finally without losing any breath this wonderful atheist will enter a minority thread and will make the statement we are all equal.

    As I said, (*)(*)(*)(*) atheist. """""""""


    Yes, I can see where you'd hate the bolded above.


    You sound very mean spirited......OP is correct.
     
  21. FreshAir

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    but you are an Atheist that denies that Jesus died for our sins right?

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    Freshy, I do not have to prove (*)(*)(*)(*) to you, nor do I need to be validated by you. You playing hallway monitor on who believes or who denies Jesus? Some secret handshake? What a amateur.....

    Whats wrong, one atheist to another am I a loose cannon? One of your own criticizing does not sit well.

    Feel free to look up my post history.

     
  23. Toefoot

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    Nothing wrong slapping down a fragile atheist, I find it a good sport. Poor things.

     
  24. FoxHastings

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    You altered my post by inserting your ignorant ""Nothing wrong slapping down a fragile atheist, I find it a good sport. Poor things""


    Do NOT alter my posts again.
     
  25. Toefoot

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    It was a accident. (*)(*)(*)(*) happens.

     

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