Why did nobody tell Trump that it would be a bad idea to get Ukraine to investigate Biden?

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  1. Jimbo11

    Jimbo11 Well-Known Member

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    trump wanted bad press for his political rival....He got away with the Russian collusion and thought he could now do it with Ukraine.
     
  2. DaveBN

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    Given that, the unwise action of conducting official business on an unsecured line would carry with it compromised US actions. Glad you agree.
     
  3. DaveBN

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    So necessary that he pursued it through unofficial channels.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seeking to end corruption is wrong in the eyes of progs? Wow...
     
  5. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

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    Robert Kennedy..

    What is it with people, once you set a precedent it is it.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Baloney.

    Tell me. Where were your secure lines located in the military. How many did you have.
     
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  7. DaveBN

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    I was stationed with 40th ESB and the DIA. I’m not at liberty to divulge, doubtful any of it would still be relevant, specific information pertaining to my job duties.
     
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    If Biden was not running for President, would any of this uproar have even happened? The charge is that Trump did this do get dirt on a "political rival".

    Perhaps Biden is conducting his futile campaign precisely to shield himself from any investigation into his (and his son's)Ukraine activities.

    That's the way it looks from my house.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh huh.

    And was any of your official business carried out on unsecured lines?

    You know, after saying "Be advised, this is an non-secure/unsecured line" when answering the phone.
     
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  10. DaveBN

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    If that’s the case then Trump fell into a pretty obvious trap. He could have of course directed his DOJ to conduct investigations that would not have drawn nearly as much heat as his unofficial channels have.
     
  11. william kurps

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    All this is..once again The Democrats get caught with their hands in the cookie jar and blames the one who ratted them out.

    Doesn't the public have the right to know?
     
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  12. DaveBN

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    Nope. Any and all official communication was performed on IP Phones using either NIPRNet or its more secure counterpart SIPRNet. The latter was used specifically for classified information, but even the former is considered a secure line of communication.
     
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    What Democratic cookie thief are you referring to?
     
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    So, in that case, Trump's mistake is one of form, not substance.

    Personally, I don't think running for office should be a shield from investigation.

    Btw, Trump first called Zelensky on April 21, congratulating him on his election and, among other things, "expressed his commitment to work together with President-elect Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian people to implement reforms that strengthen democracy, increase prosperity, and root out corruption".

    Biden announced his candidacy 4 days later.
     
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    You cited the perfect answer. The US has been dumping money into corrupt countries for years. Trump dislikes foreign aid without knowing how it will be used. If Biden was part of the corruption at that time. Bonus points for Trump.
     
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    Take your pick
     
  17. DaveBN

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    Form, style, and substance. He pursued it in the wrong way and, it looks to be, for the wrong reasons.
     
  18. DaveBN

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    I’m bad at guessing games. How about you tell me which one you were talking about.
     
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    What thread are you in?
     
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    Yes I'm familiar with NIPR and SIPR.

    Is NIPR-net a "secured" line?

    Can a NIPR number be called by a cell phone?
     
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    What a weak troll attempt 1/10. But thanks for the laugh anyway. On the slight chance that you sincerely believe the above and aren't trolling, it explains so much about your posts.

    Who is it, btw, who "rates" flagrantly leftist media outlets as center or right? Media Matters? Some other Soros Entity? ROFL.

    To the topic, no one in any brainstorming session anywhere could conceive that the Democrats would be stupid enough to base their impeachment attempt on an effort to hide the rampant corruption in their top echelons... by TELEVISING IT DAILY ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. Rich beyond belief, no one could have foreseen something THAT utterly moronic and unthinking.

    Here's a trivia question for you dreamers, since Nixon, how many Presidents besides Ford have -not- been the subject of impeachment hearings? LOL. LOLOLOL. ROFLMFAO.
     
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    Possibly in the wrong way. For the wrong reasons? That's questionable, unless you consider someone running for office off-limits to investigation.
     
  23. DaveBN

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    I had assumed I was in the thread about Trump and Biden, but your post had me second guessing that. Just figured you and I could set some grounds for the discussion going forward.
     
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    Just for the record, you think hunter being an admitted drunk / cocaine addict getting a job from Ukraine making over a half million bucks is legit ?
     
  25. DaveBN

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    NIPR to NIPR is considered secure, that’s no longer the case when communicating with an unsecured cellular device.
     

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