Why do men like to kill men? At times of war, many men smile in the anticipation of killing another

Someone posted this above that speaks to your reply.

"When there is nothing else, there is always the personal insult."

Take the log out of your eye and go see who it was.

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DL

 

Did I miss a question?

Which one?

I hate to miss any pertinent question that might add some points to my arguments.

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DL

 

Of course not, son. It is what I suggested.

 

Then you should enjoy answering this one...
"Why do men like to kill men? At times of war, many men smile in the anticipation of killing another..."
You've already decided that men enjoy killing each other...assuming your a man...why don't you answer the question?
Why do you enjoy killing people?

 

To show my fitness. I am an evolving creature and that is my biological duty.

I admit that I would only kill in self defence, but have no doubt that I would love to see the other lose/die in that competition and not myself.

I have a criminal mind and delinquent attitude and think that that has curbed my love of killing. I also follow my instincts that push me to cooperate instead of compete as that is the best survival strategy.

I also think that that instinct is telling us that we are not made to fight to the death. PTSD stats seem to prove this.

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DL

 

My instincts don't know that we now live in a modern world and to them, if I kill the fittest, I get top reproduce, which is the second most dominant urge, surviving being the first.

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DL

 

Thank you for honest reply.
The underlined sentence in your reply doesn't really translate to..."men like to kill men" as you have stated in your OP.
Killing in self defense and preferring that your attacker die rather than yourself does not equal "men like to kill men".
Perhaps your OP should have said...Why do men prefer to kill each other rather than cooperate?
It is also possible that the present behavior of men is not so much due to biology and instinct as it is to conditioning.
There's a fairly good chance that all of men's aggressive acts are born of his fear of something or someone else.
But either way, their habits can change. They simply prefer to die rather than change.

 

Good points.

I too think that it is our style of combat that should change. The older Olympics was supposed to replace all out wat but that mentality has not continued today. Back then, as now, PTSD was telling people that we are not made to fight to the death, just like almost all other animals. You would think that our large brains would not be so obtuse to the point of stupidity.

The ancients found trade to be better than killing each other but modern greed seems to have reduced those opportunities.

War is fear driven, as you say, and governments and religions are really good at creating those as they both love to divide instead of unite. Division allows our masters to gain more power. Their make wealth projects for themselves cost us a lot of our young.

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DL

 

Your entire premise is flawed. Very few men enjoy killing in war and the isolated cases of those that do are never quite trusted by the men serving beside them. The exception would be an instance where your buddy is killed before your eyes and in the heat of the moment you seek retribution. By and large though it's kill or be killed and your actions are nothing beyond self preservation. Politicians on both sides of a war put young men in this untenable situation and it's them we should condemn not our troops that want nothing more than to come home alive.

 

No argument on your last. I blame our politicians and mostly our religious masters.

If you think I am that far off the mark then what do you think our epitome of drama is.

Socrates saw that our two basic wants in life were bread and circuses, physical survival and entertainment.

The emperors saw that blood was what the people wanted and gave it to them in the arena.

We are still blood thirsty. Right?

Before you answer, consider what you watch on T.V.

If like most, you watch a lot of bloodshed. I do when I am not watching science and nature programs.

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DL

 

We have come a very long way from Roman times and our modern day gladiators on the football field are well protected by very strict rules to minimize physical injury.

 

Strict, but designed to keep as much violence in sports as possible.

All our boys who suffer concussion will be pleased to hear that.

Especially the pros who are hired to be bullies on the field and ice.

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DL

 

Good example with concussions. Millions are being spent to design better helmets and violence on the football field is penalized.

 

Sur a slap on the wrist, while to one wo get's the concussion is effected for life.

Great sportsman ship that. Not.

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DL

 

Concussion issues are a recent discovery and being addressed as we speak which is further evidence of attempting to make a full contact sport as safe as possible.

 

You cannot take dirty shots out of a game when the poor sportsman ship of offenders is ignored or not treated harshly enough and offenders are treated like prima donnas.

if the victim can be sidelined for life, as has happened more than once, from a dirty shot, then so should the offender.

Reciprocity is fair play. Do to the offender what he has done to his victim.

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DL

 

Retribution is sweet, it get's a lot of converts, and once it's got you, it never let's up until you are in the air with a clean uniform.

 

Not a football fan I see. LOL

 

Not a fan of sportsmanship I see.

I would LOL if I thought you were funny.

I see a pathetic thinker with a poor sense of justice and morality.

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DL

 

Exactly. This thread is just someone who is expressing an assumption and has convinced his or herself that it must be true.

Don't government's normally dehumanize the enemy to the point where their soldiers hate them? Killing them would be an act involving a lot of emotions, joy - I'm not sure that is felt when the sniper pulls the trigger, as their enemies head blows up in a haze of red.

 

"When debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser..

Have a nice day.

 

I read the book Americas greatest sniper and he seemed to get his joy from saving lives of Americans by shooting those that put their lives at peril. He did enjoy making a good shot on the target though which is about skill not killing.

 

To your first.
I like to use KIS on titles and that direction is where the evidence led.

My belief is that we are built to fight for mating rites but not usually to the death.

In that, we are to be more like the vast majority of animals who fight, but only to the pint of defeating our foes. We are following our selfish gene and it says to let the loser run away because every confrontation is an opportunity for the winner to lose and our best survival strategy is to let the loser run away.

To your last.
Yes our enemies are dehumanized by our masters.
Yes they want their killers to be happy about it.
All killers likely are happy to kill instead of being killed but that seems to be a fleeting thing given the high PTSD rates.

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DL

 

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But the kill is a part of the skill.

A great shooter who chokes when the target is live would soon be out of a job.

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DL