Why have Jews suffered persecution for the last 2000 years?

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  1. TedBundy

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    So I've shown that:

    "...the first authentic document relating to a large and well-organized Jewish community in these regions dates from 321 and refers to Cologne on the Rhine."

    A). You're at least a thousand years off. Jews were in Europe in the second century before Christ.

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    B). Jews were in Germany in a large community over four hundred and fifty years before you claim.

    What have you got to say for yourself?
     
  2. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess what I'm asking is, if Ashenazi Jews are related to the Israelits, why do they look whit European and not Semitic Middle Eastern ?
     
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    In a word: Jealousy.

    Since the clock began ticking, Jews have been persecuted simply for being successful innovators, inventors and forerunners in science thus incurring the envy and covetous wrath of most others.

    Their persecution and suffering has inspired them to be at the vanguard of civil rights -- and ironically, to struggle incessantly for the promotion of human rights for all people ... even those who persecute and harm them. Jewish people are therefore, in general, very liberal regarding their political philosophy. The vast majority of Jews in the United States are Democrats.

    Jews should be admired and applauded for their promotion of human rights and contributions to science and medicine.

    --30--
     
  4. TedBundy

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    Because they're not the same people as Arabs. There were many Semitic people in the ancient world. The Phoenecians who were also from the Levant were mostly blonde haired. There is no controversy over the origins of the Ashkenazim. Even in Arab universities like Cairo and Beirut there is no one claiming that Ashkenazim are not the descendants of the Israelites. The only people who do claim that are neo-Nazis and Islamic fundamentalists.
     
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    Why do Chinese Jews look Chinese and Ethiopian Jews look Ethiopian ? Isn't it safe to say Jews today are a religious group and no longer a racial one ?
     
  6. TedBundy

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    Chinese Jews? They would be converts. Ethiopian Jews are descendants of a small number of Jews who married into the local population over 2500 years ago.
     
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    ok, then what right do Chinese Jews have to call Israel their homeland if they're not genetically related to the Israelits ?
     
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    Ilove when they do that
    jews have suffered so much over the last 2,000 years, from the time of jesus to [fast forward and skip 1500 years of irrelevant history] the inquisition.
     
  9. TedBundy

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    You'd have to ask them. I've never met a Chinese Jew although I'm sure there are some. Anyhow, surely the Israelis are allowed to decide on their own immigration policy? Would you be in favour of banning any Chinese from migrating to the United States because they "don't have a right" to be there?
     
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    could be close but ithink youre missing something.
     
  11. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chinese Jews that come to the aren't claiming that they are related to the Native Americans.

    But Ashkenazi and North African Jews are claiming they have a genetic right to Israel.
     
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    A genetic right? All they're saying is they are the indigenous inhabitants of Israel - which they are.
     
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    Enemy lines? where was the threat coming from? East or west. Egyptian sources indicate that at this time the Mittani were the most powerful group in the region with Assyria being too far removed to pose any immediate threat. 'Israel' was basically the diplomatic ground at the time where Mittani and Kemet would negotiate. Kemet was always the army on the ground in Israel until Assyria sacked Kemet (incidentally the same time Israel was sacked, 700bce)
     
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    jewish ppl got rich because they are europeans, to put it simply. they work with and it tandem to european culture because thats how they are raised thats essentially whom they bond with because thats who they are. they are like just white folk who read the bible and actually understood most of it.
     
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    because ashkenazi are not of lineal descent. it states in the table of nations, that ashkanzai must be converts to a religion called judaism, whoever created that. judaism is probably a very new religion, it certainly is not mentioned in the bible.
     
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    North. The Canaanites.

    Kemet's army was wiped out in the Red Sea then the Israelites wandered the Sinai for 40 years before sending spies into Canaan to scout the land and then invading.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ha ha ha! Funny guy.
     
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    the only ppl who claim ashkenazi are descendants of Israelites are KKK, david duke is a big fan of this skeptical claim.

    as for phoenicians being blonde hair, blue eyed and freckily, thats also something daviv duke would no doubt give a :thumbsup: too.

    *where do they find these ppl.
     
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    They have excavated Canaanite towns in Sinai that paid tribute to Pharaoh .. These towns produced metal works and pottery.. and some were mining towns.. They were protected by Egyptian garrisons.
     
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    if they are claiming to be the original habitants, don't they need to be genetically tied to the Israelits by genes and not just faith ?

    If I convert to the Celtic faith, does that give my kids birth rights to Ireland ?
     
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    Actually Abraham was supposedly from near Basra which would have made him either an Arab or Mesopotamian.
     
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    Abraham was from Ur which in in Iraq
     
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    The Sinai was inhabited by the Monitu not the Canaanites. The Israelites controlled the region during the first 40 years of the Exodus and based their operations in a region called Paran, the precise location of which is not known today.
     
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    Yes. However the Jews who are genetic descendants of the Israelites have a right to determine their own immigration policy.

    There is no "Celtic faith." And the Celts are not an ethnic group but a cultural group. The "Celts" of Ireland are descendants of Gauls. Gauls were an ethnic group who were culturally Celtic.
     
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    The Monitu were not Israelites.

    http://www.egypt-cairo.com/sinai/monitu.html

    Sinai was never controlled by the Israelites. The "Israelites" were unaffiliated tribes of lawless , landless people who were nomadic.. They were sometimes referred to as Habiru or Apiru.

    The Canaanites were much older... established with a sophisticated culture and society. See UGARIT... or north coast Canaanites.
     
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    according to you they are but not to many others.
     

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