Why have Jews suffered persecution for the last 2000 years?

He was a Mesopotamian from Ur as was Sarah. However after his descendants wiped the Canaanites out and impaled them all on pikes the Israelites became, for all intents and purposes indigenous.

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Possession is nine tenths fella. We're not going anywhere.

 

Celtic polytheism, commonly known as Celtic paganism,[1][2][3] comprises the religious beliefs and practices adhered to by the Iron Age peoples of Western Europe now known as the Celts, roughly between 500 BCE and 500 CE, spanning the La Tène period and the Roman era, and in the case of the Insular Celts the British and Irish Iron Age.

Celtic polytheism was one of a larger group of Iron Age polytheistic religions of the Indo-European family. It comprised a large degree of variation both geographically and chronologically, although "behind this variety, broad structural similarities can be detected"[4] allowing there to be "a basic religious homogeneity" amongst the Celtic peoples.[5]

The Celtic pantheon consists of numerous recorded theonyms, both from Greco-Roman ethnography and from epigraphy. Among the most prominent ones are Teutatis, Taranis and Lugus. Figures from medieval Irish mythology have also been adduced by comparative mythology, interpreted as euhemerized versions of pre-Christian Insular deities. The most salient feature of Celtic religion as reflected in Roman historiography is their extensive practice of human sacrifice. According to Greek and Roman accounts, in Gaul, Britain and Ireland, there was a priestly caste of "magico-religious specialists" known as the druids, although very little is definitely known about them.[6]

Following the Roman Empire's conquest of Gaul (58–51 BCE) and southern Britannia (43 CE), Celtic religious practices began to display elements of Romanisation, resulting in a syncretic Gallo-Roman culture with its own religious traditions with its own large set of deities, such as Cernunnos, Artio, Telesphorus, etc.

In the later 5th and the 6th centuries, the Celtic region was Christianized and earlier religious traditions were supplanted. However, the polytheistic traditions left a legacy in many of the Celtic nations, influenced later mythology, and served as the basis for a new religious movement, Celtic Neopaganism, in the 20th century.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_polytheism

 

There probably was no actual "Abraham"... He may have been a literary device or a prototype... Ur.. near Basra ... was settled 6-10,000 years ago by people from Sumer and from the eastern Arabian Peninsula.. See history of the Marsh Arabs by Theisinger.

 

I know. Try to follow. The Monitu were the inhabitants of the Sinai before the Israelites arrived.

It was controlled in the sense that they were the most powerful force there during the 40 years.

And where are they now? We put them all on pikes. Bye bye Canaanites.

 

egypt has a vast history of documented sources, because it is the most excavated land on earth and it would appear that they had a very real presence on the ground in Israel up until its collapse in 700. coincidentally this is the same time Israel fell and was taken captive in the east. how the mighty One falls.

 

And as Celtic polytheism no longer exists there is no Celtic religion.

 

Yes... for much of its history Israel was a vassal state of Egypt... One striking reference is to King Omri when the scriptures of north and south were combined and rewritten.

 

celts dont have an organized faith (religion) so technically you couldnt come over here and join the fight. if however celts created a unique religion then you would of course be welcome, however, this idea kind of goes against celtic culture, which is very simple and down to earth, happy in their small corner.

 

The descendants of the Canaanites are still around... They were present in Israel and the hill country throughout Bible times and intermarried with the descendants of the Hebrews.

 

According to the bible it would also make him Hamitic, as Sumer was first a Kingdom of Nimrod the Hamite. In the table of Nations in Genesis, the Hamites consist of Mizraim and Kush.

 

This is a loaded question, and can only be replied with a loaded answer...

It's very simple: it was meant to be this way.

 

The vast majority were wiped out. A treaty was made with the Gibeonites who were spared.

 

Indeed.

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Piffle.. Joshua's battles were fiction............. The Canaanites were NOT wiped out.. You really should learn that the history of the Jews is not the only history of the region.

 

No it wouldn't. Abraham was not from Ham's line but from Shem's. Nimrod's genealogy is neither here nor there.

 

this relationship is criminally overlooked imo

 

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this is where you bring sources from Kemet...

 

its pretty simple really. The stigma of judiasm originates with the fact they were the "christ killers", were prominent moneylenders and maintained a continents spanning trading network.

Being visibly different and refusing to acknowledge Christ was more than sufficient for the general population to despise them.

Being major money lenders to royalty made them targets of persecution, confiscation and expulsion. For many it was the easiest way of becoming debt free.

Being shrewd traders with quality goods from Europe, Africa and Asia also caused resentment in the monied classes and the common folk. In those times, supply and demand dictating mark ups was equated with cheating.

By the renaisance they were herded into ghettos, creating further distance/isolation from the christians.

The emphasis on education and learning amongst jews stems from the simple fact that over the past couple thousand years, the jews have been expelled from various lands, their possessions confiscated, their business appropriated, but the one thing that could not be taken from them was "knowledge".

Things went slightly differently with the muslims, since the early muslims were in direct competition with jews and of course the jews completely rejected mohammed as any kind of prophet, viewing him as yet another petty warlord. Its rather a fascinating and ugly story that serves as the foundation of muslim animosity towards jews to this very day.

As for the various interpretations of "choseness" it appears as tho there is great ignorance surrounding the true meaning (according to jewish scholars themselves).

I find it rather ironic that many christians do not recognize that the concept of "choseness" was appropriated by both christians and muslims. Ask a catholic who gets into heaven.


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/chosen_people.html

 

Indeed, Sumer was a mixture of hamites and shemites

 

I was already shown the mistake I made.

 

After reading through this thread I don't think anyone knows why the Jews are hated. I sure don't.

 

Still evading. This confirms my suspicions.

Your post has nothing to do with Rush. That's ridiculous. Everyone knows what "asking for it" means. It means the victims brought it on themselves, and that was clearly your meaning towards the Jews. Distractions about Limbaugh, or the length of Israeli wars have nothing to do with it. I'm more curious as to why the left seems to be turning more and more antisemitic. Why is that?

 

What I'm getting is that a few thousand years ago there were many middle eastern tribes and faiths - one tribe were Israelites and their faith was Judaism. But they then moved outward beyond the Middle East into Europe where the married and bred with the Europeans to the point they were pretty much the Europeans of the Jewish faith. And now, these same European Jews believe they have a right to the original land because they are of the same faith as the ancient Israelites.

 

genetic evidence shows the Jews of Europe and North Africa are decended from Jewish men who took on non-Jewish wives.

 

Some studies claim that. Others(Behar) say the founding mothers were Middle Eastern. The studies by Behar are given most credence in the field.