Why is blacks attacking whites not racism?

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  1. HailVictory

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    Yea I know it's not the conventional generations. I'm talking about people born in a certain year range that got to experience life differently than their parents. Yes, indeed, there are a lot of successful black people out there, but compare that to the amount of white successful people out their and you'll see the disproportions. And 25 years is not really far off from what I had. There's a big difference between people born in between the 1900s-1920s and people born in the 1940s-1960s. People born in 1900 weren't really the majority of race rioters in the 60s. And people born in the 60s would still experience a bit of Jim Crow for their lives. But people born in the 70s wouldn't. That's how I calculated generations. Anyways, the other point I'm trying to make is that rioting like this isn't really improving their condition as far as institutionalized racism goes. Because if everyone is just censoring themselves, they aren't not being racist, but quite the contrary actually. It's like saying a swear word in front of children. That's not really socially accepted, but it doesn't stop people from swearing when with adults. Saying a racial comment to a black person is not socially acceptable. But it doesn't stop people from saying the same things around white people in the privacy of their home. It's basically making racism private. Which doesn't solve racism, but bottles it up and segregates it. No pun intended ;) probably not a good joke but still.
     
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    If blacks are cognitively and behaviorally equal to whites in every way, as you believe, but superior athletically, wouldn't that make them superior?
     
  3. Johnny-C

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    No. Certain people are obsessed with Black crime, and their perception reveals that. They play with numbers to paint a skewed portrait of Black people in general, and it needs to stop.
     
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    Reality isn't represented by your incidental evidence. Some are attempting to paint Blacks (in general) as violent... when Whites are just as human.
     
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    Blacks also commit more white collar crime than whites.
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    Are White people human? Sure they are! (There is crime amongst them as a group.) Too often in America, attention is directed at minorities where it concerns crime while, Whites are often depicted (in comparison) as being virtually no problem as it relates to the same.

    The perceptions that have been fostered over a few generation, has added to the very problems we are seeing; that is by design.
     
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    There is absolutely White crime. Whites comprise about 70% of the population and commit about 25% of the crime. The prison population reflects this, about 25% White, 25% Hispanic and 50% Black.
     
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    Absolutely not.

    It is not "playing with numbers" to point out objective facts. It is simply pointing out factual information and thereby discrediting the idea that blacks are suffering at the hands of white people. They suffer at their own hands, and blame the rest of the world.

    You may not like it when people point out the objective, factual numbers that show without a doubt that blacks are absolutely in dire straights, and that it is linked more to their culture than anything else. But that does not make it any less true.

    The truth should not be controversial. But it is, because of people like you.

    EDIT: It is also worth noting that as someone who has participated in forums like this for a long time, people did not point these statistics out about blacks on nearly the same scale as we do today until blacks began clinging to falsehoods like "hands up dont shoot" and throwing it, racism, and putting blame where it doesn't belong (it belongs on themselves), in the faces of white people, all the while being extremely racist and willfully ignorant themselves. So in response, we are now taking objective, factual information, and throwing it in their face, as well as the faces of their sympathizers.
     
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    No they are not.

    They are showing you that the REALITY, is blacks do commit more crime as a race. They also drop out of school more. Resist authority more. Etc etc. The list goes on. It isn't "painting blacks" as anything. Its the observation of reality. Just because you dont like the reality, does not mean it is any less true. As soon as they stop doing those things at such high rates, then people will stop seeing it, and pointing it out. But when you actually take an objective mindset to the statistics, you cannot say that what you see isn't damning for them.

    Yes, not ALL blacks are bad, not even most. But nonetheless, they absolutely as a race in whole have, observable short comings. To point these out gets white people called racist. To flee from their neighborhoods gets white people called racist. To do anything but sympathize with them for issues they have never faced in their lives any more than any other race gets white people called racist.

    Ive been given dirty looks, called cracker and whitey more often than most black people have been called a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). But I dont go pouting about it and destroying my neighborhood while blaming it on everyone else.
     
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    Another completely not true statement. You are beyond hope. You have this idea that observing and stating facts is racist.

    Something I have come to expect of some people.
     
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    Have you SEEN the way that those hostile to certain groups use numbers and other data? (I have.)

    One would have to be naive to not realize that inaccurate or partial pictures of reality can be contrived with virtually 'any' data. And racists here in this forum and other venues do that 'regularly'.

    Don't fool yourself.
     
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    If "hope" equals vilifying an entire segment of humanity... then you are correct.

    In my view, I've seen the social tendencies here to paint Blacks and others are virtually less that fully human. It's wrong and I think it's disgusting.

    Sure, due to socioeconomic conditions and other hardships abjectly imposed upon Blacks (and others) throughout history (even the last 500 or so years)... people who are not "White" are somewhat more afflicted with certain struggles. Still... the disgusting myopia and denial of Whites (as a 'culture') in attempting to alleviate themselves of collective responsibility and guilt (often exhibited within this very forum) is nothing less than troubling. And it has also contributed to exacerbating and prolonging the very problems leading to the criticisms too often leveled at Blacks and other ethnicities.

    Don't try to sell me the notion that Blacks are somehow more 'criminal' as a "race"; they are human beings, just like EVERYONE ELSE!!
     
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    There is 0 responsibility on present day whites, the responsibility is completely on each individual black.

    Therefore there is no reason to feel guilty on my, or any other whites shoulders.

    That idea is exactly the problem. Blacks blame whites, when it is not our fault. I can't help what happened 100 years ago. 200 years ago etc.

    No one argues they, as a race, are criminals. Only that they disproportionately have criminals among them, and don't accept personal responsibility. That, is what has prolonged this.

    You are foolish. And part of the problem. I'm not apologizing for something I have never done, nor am I going to payback present day blacks first something they have never experienced. I've experienced more racism from blacks than I have ever seen given.

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    It's objectively factual data. If that data paints a picture, its because it's true. That's not whites fault. Blacks need to fix thier culture.
     
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    You aren't addressing reality.

    All groups bear some cultural responsibility for what America is and will become.
     
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    I don't. However, I do believe that deep down racists believe they are inferior and as a result they attempt to concoct justification for believing that they're better than other people.
     
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    Your explanations for racism are not very convincing. Think about the crack vs, powder cocaine sentencing disparity. Perhaps you should research it and learn why this was seen as inequitable treatment of blacks by the criminal justice system.

    The violent crime stats present a skewed image because the people who mention them don' t usually mention that because violent crime is so rare they represent about 2 percent of black people each year.
    When 98 percent of black people are not involved, you don't blanketly attempt to lecture "the blacks" about It and wonder why the generalization is considered racist.

    When you start a crusade against legacy admits and big donor admits to college get back to me. Admissions are generally holistic. Essays, overcoming adversity. Extra curricular activities and a factors are once baseline academic qualifications that are high enough to demonstrate the ability to do the are met.

     
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    False. We are not responsible for things that happened hundreds of years ago.

    Are you telling us we need to give all the land our ancestors stole and murdered for back to the Native Americans?

    You guys are such hypocrites.
     
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    IS and WILL

    NOT was.

    You have no bearing on what reality actually is.
     
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    I have a view and an opinion, that I apply to politics and the rest of reality I experience.

    And surely, I'm not wrong about everything.

    Regards and goodbye.
     
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    Yes, you a view and an opinion. An opinion that goes against all facts, and therefore reality. You "feel" the way you do, regardless of factual information. You are allowed to have your opinion, but just don't be surprised when you are told it's wrong, when it is in fact wrong.
     
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    " Why is blacks attacking whites not racism? "

    it is if the attack is done because the person is white
     
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    I agree :)

     
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    that is ridiculous, most Americans were not rich enough to own slaves and in fact many whites are the reason slaves were freed, many risked their lives to make sure slaves had equal rights

    I have zero guilt, I blame the racists for the acts of racism, be they white racists or black racists... their children are not responsible for the acts of their parents...

    and I will agree with you about it being disgusting about the threads that are only here to attack blacks repeatedly, but that never justifies blaming ALL white and saying all of us should have white guilt or that we are all responsible for what happened to some blacks in the past

    "Don't try to sell me the notion that Blacks are somehow more 'criminal' as a "race"; they are human beings, just like EVERYONE ELSE!!"

    agreed

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