Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

You don't have any evidence that the CDC is lying.

There is no reason that I should accept that kind of accusation.

We can't even have a discussion if your response is simply that we must assume that everybody is lying.

 

Homeopathy doesn't have ANY standards for effectiveness OR for safety. That's what makes it homeopathy.

Criticizing that is NOT counterproductive. There is a very clear reason for that. If a substance is not effective, then the result is that actual effective treatment gets delayed. That can SERIOUSLY affect the patient's outcome. And, the "safety" part is just as obvious.

Promoting homeopathy IS an assault on the health of our citizens.

And, this has NOTHING to do with finding real solutions. Our drug companies are HIGHLY motivated in their search for new solutions. For them, finding new solutions is what makes them BILLIONS of dollars.

The CDC is equally motivated, just not by dollars. At the outbreak of COVID, the CDC carefully reviewed ever medication that has passed safety testing to find possible candidates for preventing or treating COVID that could be applied rapidly due to the fact that safety testing was already complete. That's how they found hydrochloroquine, for example. Ivermectin was on that list, too.

The CDC is conducting full bore double blind testing of ivermectin. The catch is that the outlook doesn't look good for there to be a positive effect.

 

How could ridding the body of destructive parasites not have a positive effect on overall health? It would not surprise me if the CDC or FDA would deceive the public to protect these trillion dollar pharma giants.

 

Did you check out the video?
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...st-to-die-of-covid-19.591620/#post-1072916132

Just watch it for a few minutes starting at the 1:01:35 time mark

 

COVID has nothing to do with parasites. Viruses are not parasites.

Your logic about big pharma is ridiculous. First of all, your ideas are limited to America. But, this issue is NOT limited to America.

This is one of the big fails of conspiracy theories. You can't gin up some crap about the CDC when the entire world of medical science is saying the same thing.

 

Yes, I did.

 

So, do you think it's possible that vaccine-related injuries and deaths are being drastically underreported to VAERS?

 

The guy on the right is just plain wrong over and over and over again. Plus, he keeps interrupting while demanding that anyone else who talks needs to stop interrupting.

This is NOT how analysis is done.

Let's remember that doctors are required to report to VAERS problems that could possibly be traced to vaccines.

If someone dies of a vaccine, it's highly likely they will have been seen by a doctor.

So, that individual's claims about "self reporting" are just plain BS.

Plus at this time the full testing phases have been accomplished. So, the nonsense about "incomplete testing" does not apply. Plus, that testing showed no new problems - which makes sense, due to the gigantic number of doses given by now.

 

It seems that it's more complicated than that. There's no arguing with the fact that it works even if we don't know why it works.

The Treatment of Viral Diseases: Has the Truth Been Suppressed for Decades?
https://www.jpands.org/vol25no3/merritt.pdf

The impact of ivermectin use in Zimbabwe
https://medicalupdateonline.com/2021/04/the-impact-of-ivermectin-use-in-zimbabwe/#:~:text=The use of ivermectin for prophylaxis and treatment,playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting your device

Go into detail.

 

The thing is that ALL that data we have on ALL topics has to be addressed statistically. There are hundreds of millions of vaccinations. There are plenty of people who die after being vaccinated, but that does NOT mean the vaccine had anything to do with it. Science does have an advantage here in that there are methods of dealing with data like this. Plus, we have the CDC, doctors, WHO, the world, to do the actual investigations of all VAERS cases plus whatever else needs to be investigated.

Anyway, what YOU need to argue is that there are people in large numbers dying of the vaccine and disproportionately being omitted from reporting.

But, there is a check against that. Doctors are REQUIRED to report cases in VAERS where death (etc.) could possibly have been related to vaccination even if the doctor believes that is NOT THE CASE!

That is a pretty strong check against your assumption.

Beyond that, there are statistical methods for determining how far off the results could be. This gets reported as error bars or in some cases as presenting one extreme, identifying it as such - like saying, it can't be higher than X, or whatever.



If you were to argue that there could be disproportionate numbers of people with undiagnosed vaccine induced issues that didn't cause someone to see a doctor, at least that sounds possible.

 

Do you acknowledge the one I already gave you in #58?

 

That doesn't mean they actually do it. There might be a tacit understanding that they should avoid attributing injuries and deaths to the vaccine when possible. If doctors stray too far from the official narrative, they're risking their careers and retirement pensions.


There seem to be a lot of vaccine-related deaths and injuries.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ure-such-events.569790/page-8#post-1072915239
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ure-such-events.569790/page-8#post-1072913550

An objective person wouldn't be playing this down.

See above.

 

Now your suggesting there is a conspiracy that includes all medical science, all pharma companies AND all doctors, and that the conspiracy extends across the world, because this same issue is being figured out in other first world countries with highly competent doctors, medical scientists, and pharmaceutical companies.

And, what you are putting up against that is a guy in the video who also believes that everyone in the world is a bald faced liar on this issue - except him and his coconspirators.


This is a topic that has to be addressed by science, NOT by people telling stories.

There have been 5,500,000,000 (yes, billion) vaccine doses given in the world.

When you divide ALL the stories you've listened to, positive or negative, by that number, what you get is 0%.

 

Come over to this section and we can talk about it.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/viral-biological.119/

There's so much manipulation and censorship that we don't know the true figures.

There's a lot of info you don't seem to be aware of. Come over to the conspiracy section so that we can talk about it.

 

I have a personal experience regarding the cancer industry. There is no doubt in my mind that government agencies are not leveling with the public regarding alternative cures.

 

Why would I have interest in that kind of assault on America?

You give NOT ONE SINGLE reason to accept anything you have said so far. So, I don't need to go anywhere to "discuss" that.

I'm well aware that you can simply call all US doctors, medical scientists, pharmaceutical companies and everyone else liars.

I get enough of that from YOU right here.

 

So, I should believe you, and thus reject the entire healthcare system of doctors, hospitals, medical science, based on no further information than THAT???

Really???

 

Hey viewers...

Go check out the info posted by the anti-vaxxers in the conspiracy section.

 

You should do whatever you want and so should others regarding their own healthcare. If people choose to treat themselves with methods which are not FDA approved when their lives are on the line it is their own business and they should also feel free to share their findings with others.

Ridding your body of parasites and candida is definitely a positive step for ones health. Many researchers have asserted that there is a link between these entities and cancer and other forms of disease. These assertions are certainly logical in my opinion. I believe that diseases like cancer and harmful viruses like Covid are more likely to survive and thrive in a system which has been compromised by patristic and bacterial infestation which obviously compromise immune systems.

If you should ever be diagnosed with a life threatening disease as I was, I suggest that you consider researching alternatives to radical invasive surgery, toxic drugs such as many platinum based chemo drugs which often kill patients or radiation treatments which often end up doing more harm than good. Those are the three mainstays of the medical profession. I rejected them and am now cancer free.

 

You do not know that to be a fact. The same media spouting rubbish about Ivermectin spouts it as if republicans refuse to wear masks. We have mostly republicans here and believe me since 2020 they have wore masks.

 

If the CDC were to falsify results Fox would be on it like white on rice.

 

Republicans are not the issue, it' the fanatical Trump supporters

 

Well, ya know that a lot of people will survive covid even without worm medicine. It's the corolation vs causation thing.

 

Trump was as history will prove, a very good president. Were he bad, I would never have voted for him again.

 

lol, not in any real history books