Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    On the contrary, there are thousands of 'liberal' scientists behind the scenes working on better treatments for COVID. And they're prepared to look at everything, no matter how outlandish. Any dependable and worthwhile treatments we have access to in coming months/years, will be a result of liberal scientists checking every possibility.

    I'm not sure why you think liberals don't want to find a good and reliable treatment for COVID. What do you suppose would be the motivation to keep themselves and their families suffering along with the rest of us? Money isn't it, because any treatment is a win for the pharmaceutical companies - so what is it?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden has done more to destroy America, our reputation globally than any other Democrat has in such a short time.
    Trump is notorious for keeping his promises. This is why the media feared him.

    It is not the industrial defense industry, it is the media. As you are fed, so you shall deficate.
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you claim that science is this magical thing called liberal? I hope you get it that things are not run by science but by our media.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why not snake oil? If you're going to go with a fake cure, why not go with a classic?
     
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    And yet libs continually repeat the "mask, vaccinate, distance" mantra incessantly.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Simple answer: Trump said something positive about it therefore it is evil.

    Remember back when Kamala Harris said she would refuse the vaccine if Trump had said it was something you should get?

    These people have no rationale at all. There is so enraged that Donald Trump has dealt such a heavy blow to them.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    right political agencies that have nothing to do with actual medicine practice are political so this is a political move. My guess is because drug companies can't make lots of money on ivermectin.
    We all know the real reason it's because Trump said something positive about it.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    At this point all of these things are a political issue.

    I think the only reason people are so adamant about these things is because of political identity. If they were really worried about getting the virus they would just stay away.

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    PETA.
     
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    not hardly, Trump was embarrassment to the country and the world
     
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    The money argument is so stupid. Someone profits regardless, whether it's a vaccine manufacturer or the hospital treating the sick, so it could be used either way. However, since it is a purely paranoid and baseless argument, it can't reasonably be used either way, so it's just a non-starter. It begs the question of a conspiracy on a global scale to make a few people concentrated in the medical field some money at the expense of basically everyone else. It's facially absurd and lacking evidence. It is the kind of non-argument that is typical of every single conspiracy theorist debate ever. These people always assume that the majority of people are either unthinking sheep or evil, greedy conspirators lying to those unthinking sheep on a massive scale.
     
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    That's a US problem. And actually blaming the media is short-sighted. The media simply reflects forces within the consciousness of the very diverse communities that a clashing within the US.

    Media is a pay for provide service. There are for the most part only giving people what they want to hear (to make money).
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    This, exactly.

    And what produces that mindset is lack of education. No wonder that GOP is not interested in quality education funding. Where would all their 'clients' go?

    Having said that, we have many people that did not complete tertiary education in Australia and they don't seem to go off the charts with conspiracy theories (at least, not en mass). So there's something unique to the US I think - a mistrust of authority and government that is perhaps historical.
     
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    Spreadneck COVID Mitigation Checklist
    Masks, NO!
    Vaccines, NO!
    Social Distancing, NO!
    Quarantines, NO!
    Shutdowns, NO!
    Product designed to remove anal worms from livestock, YES PLEASE!
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Endless boosters = endless profit
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like they reported what the doctor said, and now he says he was misquoted.

    Endless ivermectin = endless profit.
     
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    Whoooo! “Trump kept promises when? Where? PS what happened to healthcare and the wall
     
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    U.S. Food and Drug Administration
    Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
    Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin




      • The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals. Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea.
      • Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19. Clinical trials assessing ivermectin tablets for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in people are ongoing.
      • Taking large doses of ivermectin is dangerous.
      • If your health care provider writes you an ivermectin prescription, fill it through a legitimate source such as a pharmacy, and take it exactly as prescribed.
      • Never use medications intended for animals on yourself or other people. Animal ivermectin products are very different from those approved for humans. Use of animal ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in humans is dangerous.
      • When Can Taking Ivermectin Be Unsafe?
        The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19 in people or animals. Ivermectin has not been shown to be safe or effective for these indications.

        There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. It is not okay.
     
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    Yes, it does seem to be a particularly toxic blend of ignorance and institutionalized paranoia.
     
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    ... you left out those with antibodies that are 13X less likely to contract CV-19 than the vaccinated. Also, those with natural antibodies do not pass it along like the vaccinated. They have the best immunity and defense to this point and nearly everyone on the Left wants to ignore this fact.
     
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    You probably have spare money to blow on health care. We do not. Biden stopped the wall.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The media lied that a hospital is overrun by those who overdosed on a drug for animals. Flat out lied about it.
     
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    No, this is FALSE.

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

    Not only that, but it is recommended that those who have HAD COVID should get vaccinated.

    Trump got COVID and was vaccinated after recovery.


    PLEASE cite where you got this false information that those with natural antibodies are less likely to get COVID than are those who have been vaccinated.
     
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    You guys on the left are so amazingly uninformed and full of propaganda it's sad. What I shared is 100% true from the biggest case study ever conducted on the matter.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

    Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

    Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.

    You're welcome.
     
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  25. WillReadmore

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    Why do you think COVID has anything to do with parasites? This is just plain silly. We don't take medications on the possibility that someone could have whatever it is that the medication addresses!

    So, if you reject science based medicine (which is FAR larger than the CDC and FDA and is not limited to the USA) who is that that you DO trust for medical advice???

    The internet? FOX News? Trump?

    Please answer. AND state how your sources of medical advice receive the kind of serious testing and review that actual sources of science receive.
     

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