Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

You did NOT read that article!!!

RIGHT UP FRONT it states:

One can almost always find studies that report whatever it is that you believe.

The difference is that with science these studies go through serious steps of evaluation of methodology, duplication, and review.

That is a required part of science - it is NOT optional.

 

The numbers are valid. This is a huge study with very respected academics. They are just waiting for the review and you are ignoring it, because OMG.... it doesn't fit your narrative.

The Science says the natural immunity kicks the crap out of the vaccines ... AND IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.

All the big medical / science sources know it to be true.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...ainst-the-Delta-variant-than-vaccination.aspx

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...vents-delta-infection-better-than-pfizer-shot

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19 <--- THAT IS THE NIH... even they know it to be true.

 

I guess those 600 000 dead Americans didn't get the memo.

 

WTF are you babbling about? Those 600,000 did not have the antibodies and natural immunity from previous infection. Even our government knows that natural immunity is real.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

 

NO.

They themselves point out that the science there is not complete. Methodology has not been evaluated ("huge" is absolutely NOT good enough), it has not been duplicated. It has not been peer reviewed.

For example, this is a retrospective study. Retrospective studies are ALWAYS weaker for very good reasons.

 

Dude, it's been known since the peer reviewed La Jolla Study and from our own NIH. You just want the vaccine narrative... that is horsecrap and does not follow Science.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

Even the NIH acknowledges natural immunity is strong. It lasts way longer than the 6-8 month run of those weak ass vaccines.

Countries that actually follow Science like Germany, acknowledge natural immunity and give those that have it a free pass, unlike the anti-Science authoritarians here in the U.S.

 

No, now you are switching topics!

It has LONG been known that there is some amount of natural immunity. That is NOT what your original claim was. YOU claimed that the natural immunity was HUGELY more significant that vaccination immunity.

Also, you failed to notice in your original argument that even the unreviewed, retrospective study you cited states that those who have had COVID benefit from vaccination.

 

I'd also point out that there is a LOT that is not yet well known about natural immunity - issues such as what and how significant that immunity might be (since there are those who don't even get immunity from having had COVID) and how long it lasts.

 

Sure, its real, but people still get Covid two or three times.

What is your point? Infect yourself to get natural immunity? Sweden tried that path and lost ten times more people than their neighbors Norway, Denmark and Finland.

 

This is NOT actually a "huge" study.

The results are depending on numbers of infections that are LESS than a couple dozen in several of the claimed findings.

The paper even announced results that are backed by findings of NINE (9) infections!!

Nine is not a "huge" number.

 

People that get Covid-19 (Wuhan Flu) 2-3 times are insanely rare. The approximate numbers from the study are this.

• 700,000 cases
  
• 250 had the vaccine
• 20 had CV-19 previously

You are 13X more likely to catch it again as a vaccinated person versus a person that has the antibodies. You're welcome. That is pure Math and Science.

You are also ignorant on Sweden. Sweden has a much larger migrant population. Sweden also has huge Nursing Homes which Norway and Finland do not allow (prior to CV-19). The infections and deaths in Sweden came from those populations, not the rest of the public. If we take out those numbers Sweden did excellent. You are comparing an Apple to an Orangutan.

 

Read the La Jolla Study. We know a ton.

 

Here is my actual comment that the above comment is trying to be about.

Why do you claim that science is this magical thing called liberal? I hope you get it that things are not run by science but by our media.

So nothing on question one.

The media is paid of course.
Why then blast 10 percent of the media while accepting the BS from 90 percent of them?

The Media apparently defeated Trump. It was far more open and notorious than the alleged Russian attempt.
I say apparent due to how the media phrases headlines and sentences in their commentary. Constantly telling the public that all Trump does is lie is clearly an opinion. But the masters of lying tested lying by lying daily about Trump.

Though in the shadows due to the media downplaying it, there are citizens actually auditing our own election system. Until they announce a verdict, I only will say that the investigation is not stopped.

 

I personally rejected “science based medicine” when I was diagnosed with Squamous Cell Carcinoma about 5 years ago. I had a small tumor in my left orbital region. The recommendation from Kaiser HMO was to cut out my entire left eye, part of my nose and forehead then douse me with a platinum based chemo compound for weeks. The “tumor board” which consisted of 5 young Asian doctors pressured me to immediately let them radically destroy then reconstruct my face, then start pumping me full of toxic liquids. I told them to F off and started to research alternative treatments.

I found out immediately that there was already a study done by Duke University which proved that this tumor could be destroyed by injecting it with a solution of alcohol and cellulose. However I was informed that this treatment would not be approved for years. I was a member of Kaiser HMO at that time. They kept pressuring me to let them gouge out my eye then do a series of plastic surgery then chemo.

Instead I decided to go with alternative plan which consisted of eating a healthy diet (Budwig Diet) and using THC taken orally and topically. I did this for about 4 months and my tumor had shrunk by 50% and I felt great. I had lost 30 lbs and woke up every morning with a sandy solution coming from the corner of my eye which seemed to be the tumor disintegrating.

Then I made the mistake of going into Kaiser with my ex wife who is an oncology nurse. The doctor was insisting that even if I refused the surgery, I should at least let him put me on some toxic chemo. My ex pointed out that the chemo he was recommending was not indicated for the type of cancer I had and tried to get them to put me on a new immuno therapy medicine. He said they wud not give it to me until I let them poison me with toxic platinum based chemo first.

Finally I made the mistake of letting Kaiser radiate the tumor which was right on the surface between the corner of my left eye and my nose. My left eye worked fine at that point and I only agreed to take that treatment if they assured me that it would not damage my eyesight or blind me. They said they would have to use a low dosage of radiation to not damage my eye and I agreed.

At this point, the tumor was already shrinking and my eyesight was fine in both eyes. After 6 weeks four days a week of radiating my eye, the tumor was gone but they destroyed my left cornea and eyelid. Looking back, I wish I had just gotten someone to inject the tumor with the simple alcohol cellulose solution or continued with my Rick Simpson THC protocol and healthy diet. I am cancer free now but my left eye is 90% blind as a result of the radiation. My experience and the experiences of others I know has led me to believe that seeking alternative cures when confronted with a deadly disease is wise. Most cancer patients are killed by the treatment rather than the disease at this point.

 

I'm really sorry to hear that. Our ability to treat cancer is improving, but nobody thinks it's great. It sounds like your first encounter was with those oriented to absolutely assuring that the cancer would be gone - which I agree was a horrifying recommendation. Also, many run into issues of insurance coverage these days, with companies getting involved in what hospitals may offer you. I had an aunt who was refused a hip replacement by an HMO, and a couple years later found that the REAL reason was her age!! So, she found a way to get the replacement and lived for many more years of very active life with no pain.

I don't believe this can be compared to issues of the science behind COVID prevention or vaccines, though.

 

That's the whole thing about "catching it". You can catch it after vaccine, or without vaccine, but you are very unlikely to get sick if you have been vaccinated.

You're welcome.

See these folks for example. They caught it and died, because they never bothered with the vaccine. They were all South Florida teachers. This is how it rolls down here.

After 13 colleagues die from COVID, Miami-Dade teachers union sets up vaccine pop-up
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254046203.html
Thirteen unvaccinated Miami-Dade County Public School employees have died from COVID-19 since the 2021-2022 school year began on Aug. 23, including teachers, according to the school district’s teachers union.

I am actually very familiar with Sweden, and other Nordic countries, and the Covid situation. Whoever told you the Swedish deaths were immigrants and nursing home patients lied to you.

 

lol... you know so little. Tons of links from very Left respected sources, so they should be good with you.

https://www.google.com/search?clien...ens+CV-19+deaths+nursing+homes+and+immigrants

Sweden's numbers came from their immigrant population and nursing homes. You're welcome.

 

All my research and personal experience has taught me that disease is much more likely to thrive and survive in unhealthy polluted bodies. The first step should always be to rid your body of as many toxins, bacteria such as candida yeast and parasitic entities. This will allow your natural immune system to rid your body of disease. That’s why I do not have any problem with people using anti parasitic, anti bacterial or anti yeast products which are known to promote general health.

The alcohol based cancer treatment I spoke of is now being promoted to kill squamous cell but it has morphed into an expensive process which uses lasers to create small tubes that can shoot alcohol into tumors deep in the body. My tumor was on the surface and their studies already showed that they could have injected it and killed it in about 2 minutes with a substance that costs about 5 cents. They didn’t want any part of that.

The Rick Simpson protocol was created expressly for Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the skin which Mr. Simpson suffered from for years and received approved medical treatments which did not work. When he discovered that his protocol of concentrated THC worked he offered it to medical professionals and researchers and helped cure many others and was rewarded by being arrested and thrown in jail for his efforts. His story is very interesting. You should look into it. The Budwig diet was introduced by a Doctor named Johanna Budwig who found that may inflammatory diseases were caused by eating non nutritious foods. She was also harassed and discredited by the medical profession and regulatory agencies.

I think there is a great deal of corruption resulting in suppression of sound medical practice going on all over the world being funded by trillion dollar corporations in cahoots with the AMA, WHO and other government agencies.

 

There are tens of thousands of medications.

Suggesting that people just start ingesting medications is NOT removing toxins from your body.

Seriously. This is just plain STUPID.

Most medications ARE TOXIC!!

I would highly recommend eating a sound diet that follows rational nutritional standards, but that does NOT INCLUDE IVERMECTIN for crying out loud.

 

And yet none of your sources prove your claims. If they had 10 fold deaths compared to their neighboring countries then obviously your claim is fake. There are nursing homes and immigrants in those countries too and Sweden's numbers are still ten fold. Ten fold among immigrants, ten fold in nursing homes, and ten fold everywhere.

 

Gee. Where did the fake photo come from of all the "gunshot" victims standing outside in line because the inside was "overflowing with Trump Supporters who had OD'd on horse wormer"?

And how come we saw no skepticism from the Left, even in on this BB?

No, Emergency Rooms Aren’t Filling Up with People OD’ing on Horse Paste.

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I've seen people debate this with you over and over Robert.

Agree about the media, so I just see what Trump says himself (for example).

The judges threw out the election challenges, not the media.

 

Might you explain what those differences in formulations are? Having read the labels on the veterinary product and the human product, I see no differences in formulation. I have a package of each of them in my house. Topical use for veterinary, oral dose for human. Both say ivermectin.

Maybe you can prove your claim, but I doubt it.

 

The fact that you may poses ivermectin formulated for human consumption and that also marks dosage for animals is not proof of anything at all.

The issue is that there is ivermectin that IS formulated for animals that is NOT formulated for human consumption. Do you see the difference?

Plus, there is no medical testing that suggests ivermectin is helpful in preventing or treating COVID.

This is the 21st century. Why are you reverting to homeopathy?

 

The establishment is against it right now so there's not going to be much positive stuff about it in the mainstream. We have to look at info in the alternative press to see what's really going on.

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...st-to-die-of-covid-19.591620/#post-1072915645