Why it is impossible to convince a Trump supporter that he/she may be wrong.

Let's put aside the dubious accuracy of that claim for the moment. Let's concentrate on the assertion of the OP, that Trumpleton's routinely reject demonstrable truths by using a number of methods including the disingenuous "fake news" meme.

There isn't a single progressive poster on this board who has not encountered the steadfast refusal of a Trumpette to accept an unequivocal fact when it is in direct contradiction to an erroneous belief a Trumpette holds. The more damaging to the Trumpette narrative the unequivocal fact is, the more vehement the denial.

The biggest obstacle the country faces is not fundamental differences in political philosophy between liberals and conservatives. It is the inability to agree on what the facts are. We can not address climate change to the extent it needs to be addressed when one side refuses to accept overwhelming scientific evidence it is happening and it's man made. So too, we can not address the reckless, incompetent, self-serving nature of Trump's behavior and the consequent damage to the country when one side refuses to acknowledge the manifestly obvious evidence of it.

 

Tough luck for you, but you didn’t commit fraud and bilk many out of thousands of dollars nor deny others their constitutional rights, or steal money from a tax exempt Charity.

And, speeding is a civil offense . You were charged with the offense. Anyone with the money can contest it and pay. court charges. Obviously, you weren’t rich. Failure to make restitution becomes a misdemeanor, a prosecutable crime.

 

Obviously I know more then you.

 

Antifa is not blm.
Antifa is anti fascism. Any race can believe in Antifa. That’s what anti-fa stands for. It’s a political stance, not a group. I’m anti fascism. Are you ?

 

Any race can obviously be BLM as well and no, I'm not ANTIFA. ANTIFA is a terrorist organization working to destroy our system of government while hiding behind the protection of the 1st Amendment as it has been expanded by the fashionable socialist left. I'm anti that.

 

Antifa according to the FBI. Nope. You need to show a government agency that says Antifa is a terrorist group.

i believe in the constitution. The fbi is tasked with protecting our nation domestically. The official stance of the fbi is that antifa is an ideology, not an organization....
Obviously, Trump does not believe in the role and findings of the fbi either. This is not the first time. He took the opinion of Putin over the fbi too. Trump is a traitor.

I know that an ideology is not an organization. I guess Trump and his supporters support fascism then. I don’t. So, you can say I’m of the Antifa ideology. The name says..anti- FA which stands for anti fascism.

 

Which nations are considered fascist?

 

Then you admitted to doing something you didnt do. For what ever reason that was convenient for you, that's all that means.
It doesent mean Trump is innocent for his crimes. It just means he wont admit to doing them even though he basically did by paying the fines.

You and him are alike..you lie for convenience I guess. Plenty of times iv had tickets dismissed costing me more in missed work then the fine. Because guess what, I didn't do it.

 

The problem is that its not all completely lies. Its also spin using selected facts, usually out of context.

 

My time is worth too much to waste fighting a trivial traffic ticket of no consequence. Obviously, your time is not worth much.

 

Uh-huh. Obviously you dont place much value in honesty.
You chose to lie,for convenience thats the end of the story. Like Trump. Im sure he felt his time was much more valuable.

Edit: We can only go on facts..He paid for the crime. When you do that its admitting you did it.

 

Yep, that's exactly what they do. Though generally its not a word in the middle of a sentence that they edit out as such would be too obvious. They'll use a partial sentence though, IE: first half of a sentence or last half of a sentence.

 

I dont know what to tell either one of you, aside from if you ever took any source of for profit media as gospel, then that only speaks of your personal naivety.
That being said to disregard all of it because you dont like how they deliver the message is just a personal problem..Trump isnt innocent of crimes because CNN spices up story's, or tells half truths.

 

Give us one example, one fact...to support your claim and will have a test debate about it and please use snopes as your fact checker (the guy who cheated on his wife and is fighting for his company)

 

Trump lied to the American people.

 

Why it is impossible to convince a Trump supporter that he/she may be wrong.
Why it is impossible to convince a Biden supporter that he/she may be wrong.

 

Every politician lies to the American people. Why do you put up with it by giving all the lying to one person?

 

Why is it impossible to convince progressives they are crazy? Every aspect of life they touch becomes less efficient, less profitable, more divided, more corrupt, more morally bankrupt, to the point where it is now just funny and no amount of factual evidence phases them.

 

It's about expectation. A NEWS agency should be able to be taken as gospel. That it can't be is what the problem is. News is supposed to be about facts. Nothing more. I sure hope you aren't excusing it just because its "for profit". I don't care if they have their opinion shows. So long as they clearly and concisely differentiate it from their news. And if a "news" agency spins something into a crime when there was no crime then yes, that would mean Trump is actually innocent. By spinning things, telling half truths, and outright lies then they are not fulfilling their duty and are harming the country far more than any single President could hope to do, even if they served two terms. (outside of nuclear war that is)

 

Yes, every politician lies, but the quality and the quantity of Trump's lies is something new in American policy.
My favored Trump's lie:


My wife likes Trump promise to give up golf lie:

 

Whole heartedly agree with everything you said here, the bold part even more.

 

If the argument is about right and wrong, it's always a matter of degree because nobody's perfect. As far at the presidential position goes. Trump is so much more right than anyone the dems have been able to interest that there is nothing to discuss. Anyone who's watch the dems loose control of themselves over and overs since Trump first announced, who has seen the endless hate and plots, the character assassination of not just Trump but any who support him, clearly sees people whose emotions have long overwhelmed their character and common sense- as well as any self-respect they may have once had.

Ant THOSE people wonder why they can't convince Trump supporters why they are wrong.