Why More White Men Are Dying From Gun Suicides

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    How are you and everyone else on this forum qualified to discuss matters of politics?
     
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    This is very ignorant. They refer to the health care issues, obviously. That then impacts on politics.
     
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    I never knew the two careers were mutually exclusive,
    Fascinating......
     
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  4. ECA

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    Ok, what job did you have as a ‘health care provider’?
     
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    You have opinion. You don't have research career. Your inability to realise the difference needs a hug!
     
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    I worked for over 10 years as mental health professional on an Emergency Psychiatric Hospital and had suicidal patients on my case load on a regular basis.
    Briefly put, my experience was that when someone is determined to take their lives, the absence of a firearm did not stop them.
     
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    Did you consider the research and come out with a justification for your opinion?
     
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    they are not qualified for using their position to state with anything resembling authority that certain firearm-related restrictions will have a definite impact of firearm-related offenses by criminal individuals. Their field of expertise is medicine, not the law.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Matters of criminal offenses are not health care issues.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You don't think health professionals shouldn't refer to these issues? That is amusing. Does the idea of experts worry you?
     
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    Their area of expertise is medicine, and medicine exclusively. They are devoid of anything resembling qualifications for discussing matters pertaining to firearms, their legal use, their illegal use, and the effectiveness of firearm-related restrictions in general.
     
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    You don't think someone blowing their head off isn't medical? Crikey, try not to look ignorant!
     
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    There's not much research to consider when there were repeated cases of of gun owning suicide victims who chose other ways to kill themselves that were not so messy & it was not just my opinion that the victim was dead.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    So that is actual admittance that you haven't bothered with the research? Come now, we can all refer to the evidence.
     
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    You repeatedly refer to "the research" without stating whose research or what "the research" claims to prove.

    I just related what I witnessed & studied over the 10+ years of working with people who committed suicide. When they were committed to killing themselves, they found ways, with or without the presence of a firearm. Some had firearms yet chose to end their lives by other means.
     
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    White males have always been the segment of society with the highest suicide rate. Check the CDC data. Been that way for as long as data is available.

    Its that way in most industrialized Western nations. The exception is Australia where male Aborigines have the highest suicide rate.

    It has nothing to do with guns.

    But your linked video is a great example of how gun banners twist and misrepresent data.
     
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    Apparently you couldn't find a MOD who agreed.
     
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    The field of expertise of pretty much everyone on this forum is not the law yet that doesn’t stop them from giving their opinion on firearm related issues.
     
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    Really? You do realize mental health issues are part of the over arching medical field, right?
     
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    Crickets
     
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    Your utterly fallacious opinion is duly noted and what is also noted is your complete inability to substantiate all of those bogus allegations.
     
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    Are you now DENYING that you DEFAMED We the People by erroneously and egregiously stating that we do not obey the Law of the Land? :eek:
     
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    Do you think that you are scoring any points by consistently FAILING to substantiate your blather?
     
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    Yet more PROJECTION on a grand scale!

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