Why More White Men Are Dying From Gun Suicides

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Kneejerk denialism from the usual suspects duly noted.

    The ongoing and mass slaughter is unacceptable in a civilized society and We the People will bring back sanity by evicting the NRA owned puppet representatives from office.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Projecting again? :eek:
     
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    Gun owners are currently held responsible for their actions, just as those that do not own guns, just today I was made aware of a person that was injured in a motor vehicle accident, and was charged with reckless driving and the results were a wrecked vehicle and serious injuries with long term healthcare effects, no others were injured.

    There are far fewer incidents of reckless gun use among law abiding citizens than among criminals that also happen to illegally use and posses firearms.
     
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    Pointing out your faults is not projecting madam.
     
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    Then do not contribute such to the discussion, and there will be no problems as a result. Your denial does not change the confirmed fact that there is no evidence, none whatsoever, that attempts at restricting the legal use and ownership of firearms, has any beneficial relationship to the concept of public welfare. Not in the united states, and certainly not anywhere else in the world.
     
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    It is not the opinion of myself, but rather confirmed fact. There is no rule of law, not respect for the law in general, in the united states. If there was respect for law, individual states would not be openly defying federal law on these matters. The fact that they are is ample proof, not merely evidence but confirmed proof, that rule of law does not exist in the united states.

    It is time to grow up and face reality. The united states is not a first world, developed nation. Comparatively speaking it is little to no better than the nation of Mexico, and no denial on the part of yourself will change that fact.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Then precisely what is being proposed by yourself? Elaborate in precise terms, do not be vague.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not necessarily, people chose to own guns for many reasons such as collecting, hunting, professional competition(1) & just informal target practice.

    If you think that the theft of firearms is a problem now, just wait until the various gun bans you support become law and another violent Black Market in banned guns emerges.




    (1) "Top 50 Women in Competitive Shooting"
    https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/6/19/top-50-women-in-competitive-shooting/

    EXCERPT "From action pistol and bullseye champions, smallbore, high power and precision rifle masters, trapshooters and Olympic gold medalists—SSUSA has compiled this list of 50 (52 to be exact) female athletes that are influencing the ever-changing landscape of competitive shooting—for the better.

    Note: This isn’t a ranking, though we purposely grouped the first four women at the front in recognition of the attention generated by their respective shooting careers. Otherwise it’s a random selection, with the goal of presenting female shooters from as many disciplines as possible."CONTINUED
     
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    Except for the fact that no current production firearm can ever be classified as being unusual, especially when the technology upon which it is based dates back to the nineteenth century.
     
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    Too bad you can't provide any factual substantiation proving that those who gun's were stolen were charged for failing to secure them properly.
     
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    The FBI interviewed Omar Mateen and determined that he was ultimately no threat, despite admitting that he wished to murder people. He later went on to commit the Pulse nightclub shooting, despite being certified as safe by the highest law enforcement agency in the united states.

    Nikolas Cruz had a long and well documented history of criminal and questionable activity, including animal cruelty, domestic abuse, assault with a deadly weapon, making terroristic threats online under his own name, and countless other incidents. Yet in the thirty nine times law enforcement were called to his home, he was never arrested even once. The FBI itself refused to investigate his online threats, and told those filing the reports to shut up.

    Numerous mass shootings in the united states have been allowed to transpire, simply because law enforcement outright refused to do its job, and the system in place went unused and ignored.
     
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    Highly ironic, sweetcheeks!
     
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    Why should they be charged for such?
     
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    :roflol:

    Gotta love the IRONY in that kneejerk denialism.
     
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    Once again you spout baseless denigrating disparagement of We the People without ever providing anything other than your utterly fallacious opinion.
     
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    Already provided in an earlier post.
     
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    Your attempted deflection failed to address the issue of gun owners being irresponsible when it comes to securing their firearms from theft.
     
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    Thank you for PROVING my point that the definition needs to be UPDATED to meet TODAY's reality.
     
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    So you have no problem at all with gun owners leaving their firearms lying around thus making it easier for them to be stolen? :eek:
     
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    No one has ever "proven your point" DT ... how IRONIC is that? ATF regs are constantly reviewed, and municpalities constantly impose their own regs. After the big "blue wave" (D)'s will repeal the 2nd ... right after they deliver on the DACA amnesty they've promised for a decade. :roll:
     
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    Your abject failure to even address my point let alone refute it is duly noted and ignored as trolling flamebait on your part.
     
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    How much of this would be prevented, with simple recourse to unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed?
     
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    Hence why Workers compensation and Unemployment are deducted from salaries each pay period.

    As well as privately funded Health and salary insurance, such as AFLAC.
     
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    In the mindless bandying about of the latest buzz term to come to the attention of yourself supposed to inspire a level of impressiveness in those presented with it? Rest assured that it indeed does not.

    If it were indeed "kneejerk denialism" as is being asserted by yourself, it would be possible for yourself to demonstrate how such is the case, through citation of documented and verified evidence to prove once and for all, beyond reasonable doubt, that restricting the legal use and ownership of firearms by the law abiding public does indeed benefit the welfare of the public, and overall contribute to the nation as a whole.

    But such has not been done by yourself. Such has not even been attempted by yourself. There has been nothing done by yourself except the out of hand dismissal of the points raised by those who actually know what they are talking about due to superior levels of not only general intelligence and critical thinking skills, but also basic practical knowledge. It is evidence that no legitimate argument is actually possessed on the part of yourself.

    The only so-called "kneejerk denialism" to be demonstrated in this thread, is that on the part of yourself, and it has been explained precisely how such is indeed the case. Unlike the unfounded claims being tossed about by yourself in a reckless and poorly thought out manner.
     
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    And yet what is not being done by yourself, is actually denying the charges of there being no rule of law in the united states. Rather what is being done on the part of yourself is accepting the accusations as being statements of fact, rather than demonstrating how they are false.

    Indeed it has not.
     
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