Why More White Men Are Dying From Gun Suicides

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  1. Nonnie

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    So the sheer number of American gun deaths means Americans can handle current gun regulations?
     
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    Then just equate it to per 100,000 people.
     
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    Explain what firearm-related regulations and restrictions would prevent suicides from being committed with firearms.
     
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    Meaning what in practical terms?
     
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    Then you need tougher laws and restricted guns to compensate. If Americans were gun competent, you wouldn't be in this position about the argument for further gun regulation.

    It's not a case for pro gun, anti gun etc.. It's a case about the number of deaths, incidents, massacres and safety.
     
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    Explain how supposedly "tougher laws" whatever that may amount to, compensates for an absence for rule of law, in a nation where almost no one is ever held responsible for the numerous violations they commit, even when said violations are deliberate. Explain how new firearm-related restrictions would supposedly "work" in the united states, when they do not work in the nation of Mexico.
     
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    In debates when comparing countries, one thing that crops up is the difference in population levels. So just make sure when comparing stats, it's per 100,000 of population. So the gun suicides in Switzerland is xx per population and xx per 100,000 population in America.
     
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    Just look at the laws in countries such as the UK, Australia and Japan.
     
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    Which will do what to change the fact that firearm-related restrictions for the city of New York are much stricter than those of the country of Switzerland, yet they still experienced nearly ten times as many homicides as the entire country of Switzerland?
     
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    Irrelevant. The subject of discussion pertains to applying laws and legal restrictions to countries that are devoid of rule of law, not countries where rule of law actually exists. Explain how any law, regardless of strictness or severity, can be made to apply when the nation itself does not have rule of law, and no respect for the concept of rule of law.
     
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    Just look at the borders in those three countries.

    Japan has a higher intentional death rate than the US does.
     
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    Japanese are very orderly, civilized people, not like white or black people, but considering suicide rate, they're champion.
     
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    Because Americans can't handle and are not competent with guns.
     
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    Just look at the laws in countries such as the UK, Australia and Japan.
     
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    Do you know why? I do.
     
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    Why Japanese are civilized ? Or why they suicide a lot ?

    I suppose they tend to direct their own violence toward themselve. White either act like asian or black, black tend to direct the violence toward the outside. By the way, it's stereotypes. I suppose it's purely cultural and you can have black acting as asian and asian acting black.
     
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    As kids, about the first seven years of schooling, they're taught society etiquette, they clean their school, socitie's morals, support their country and fellow citizens.

    When they fall on hard times from say divorce, bankruptcy etc.. they don't feel they've let themselves down, they feel they've let their country and fellow citizens down, hence suicide.

    So their way of life has many benefits, but the draw back is the level of suicides. Just imagine how many more it could be if they were gun crazy, or more to the point, how many they could shoot before killing themselves.
     
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    You sure know absolutely nothing about firearms,
    Or Americans, Gun competitions and events or actual statistics relating to firearms.
     
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    People descended from those who crossed the plains and Rocky Mountains in covered wagons, depending entirely upon themselves for survival, won't ever be beat down enough to adopt a culture like the Japanese or those descended from European serfs.
     
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    It's not really the way of be of japanese. There is country with a lot of guns without the homicide rate of the USA.

    There is a lot of countries with no guns laws and much more murders than USA. The problem of violence is within people and within culture. It's a cultural problem, law are secundary. Even if extremly repressive sentences against violent people can help to create a climate of peace.

    Japan and China have extremly repressive justice, and that work just fine.
     
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    Wow, ten year olds in Japan are married, divorced, fallen on hard times, who knew ?

    I think you are Gun Crazy, not that you like Guns mind, however you spend every waking moment fantasizing about Guns and murder death kill, you get a thrill from all that bloody rot.
     
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    Countries have to look up to Japan when it comes to financial economic recoveries. They do it as a country, not labelled opposing groups forever fighting their government.
     
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    Because Americans can't handle guns, not responsible. If your kids are not responsible with certain things, you restrict or take them away.
     
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    The majority of the population, is quite competent in the safe and legal handling of firearms, and manage to go about their daily lives without shooting one another accidentally or intentionally, despite having a firearm readily available to them in a moment of stress and anger.

    A minority of the united states population, however, does not observe such standards, because they have proven time and again that they cannot and will not abide by the rules of society, because they do not value the lives of others, they only value themselves.

    Which does nothing to answer the question. Thus demonstrating that no actual answer to the question is possessed on the part of yourself. There is no actual answer on the part of yourself for what course of action is appropriate when the nation itself holds no rule of law, because such means rules and order are ignored at all levels. What does one do when the nation at large states that they will not comply with the rules? No answer for such a question is possessed on the part of yourself.
     

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