Why not mandate trigger locks and locked gun cases?

Why do you feel it is unreasonable to require people to secure a deadly weapon?

 

no removing freedoms from Americans is. I gave you a valid issue. You chose to ignore it.

 

Because if the thing your trying to do is stupid and pointless then it should be resisted.

Something I notice about your op. You throw out this idea and also state your desire for law abiding citizens who are also victims to suffer, but in no way shape or form do you offer any reasoning whatsoever as to why we should do this, how it would work, how it would be enforced, how it would be enacted, or how it would make a positive effect on gun violence.

So how about answering even one of those questions before we actually start taking your suggestion seriously. You won’t answer of course. Because real solutions aren’t your true goal. You just want to hurt your political opponents. You don’t care about dead kids.

 

How would that effect anything other then preventing people to use them in legitimate self defense?

 

The unintended consequences are worse than the problem you are trying to solve. I have not heard what happened other than he used his fathers guns. Were the guns locked up and he found the key or were they completely unprotected? Did the father have any reason to suspect the son would do something like what he did? There is no perfect solution in this imperfect world.

 

Gun violence has been on a rapid decline for decades...

 

I think there are already legal consequences imposed for wanton negligence.

 

Even if true, I hardly think that is comforting to the parents of the dead kids.

 

I suppose so, if you leave a loaded gun on a park bench. But we need to be a bit more proactive than that.

 

I agree. But we need to try to do something about the things we can help prevent, even if we only prevent 10% of potential crimes. Doing nothing is not acceptable.

 

True. And great deflection for an alt leftists. Hide behind dead kids. You guys never cease to amaze. You still haven’t answered any of the questions.

 

America’s Culture of Death
When you live long enough, a certain world-weariness sets in. You grow tired of a culture’s persistent pursuit of ways that lead to the destruction of life rather than it’s nurture. In fact of course, we have in America two very different cultures vying for supremacy– a culture of life and a culture of death. And death seems to be winning.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bibleandculture/2013/02/09/americas-culture-of-death/

 

The dead kids are the very point of the discussion. Just how mindless can you folks be?

 

Only if the "something" does not cause more problems than it solves. In my case, that is exactly what it does.

My children are long grown up. But when my wife goes somewhere and does not return when I expect her to, I don't worry that she has been shot. I am concerned that she has been in some kind of auto accident. I suspect that is the case when most parents send their kids off to school, they are more worried about them being in an accident than a school shooting. If they aren't, they should be. There are many things that could lower the auto accidents like no cell phones, no drinking or no pot, monitors on their activities, etc. We seldom hear about those "common sense" solutions. I don't need a lecture on what the thread is about. I am just pointing out that there are many things in this world that are a bigger concern than school shootings. Too bad we don't try to tackle them.

 

Possession of a lethal weapon comes with certain responsibilities. Ignore those responsibilities and there should be a consequence.

 

"we" need to mind our own business. when someone runs afoul of the myriad existing laws that are specifically designed to try to protect the public, punish them. severely, if need be.

ah, but there's the rub, innit?

soft-on-crime bleeding heart leftists can't abide that. they love to make laws...because it makes them feel virtuous and compassionate and morally superior to the unwashed hordes...like they, and they alone, are DOING SOMETHING...

but when it comes to enforcing many of their wonderful laws they fall down on the job....because that too makes them feel virtuous and compassionate and morally superior to the unwashed hordes.

 

Which doesn't mean we should do nothing to try to prevent future shootings.

 

None of that hyperbole makes enhancing gun control laws unreasonable.

 

You can be required to have pools secured by fencing and alarms. Ignoring such laws can have you fined / jailed.

 

One of the principles of business is that you can sometimes save more money by saving a small percentage of a big item than a big percentage of a small item There are much bigger problems out there that have a much larger chance of saving lives. They are not newsworthy or likely to attract more attention politically, but if your purpose is to save lives, there is where you ought to be putting your time. However, we all know that saving lives is not the true ultimate goal.

 

I thought you wanted to reduce the violent gun attacks? Ive easily exposed that you actually arent interested in this as youve ignored every single idea that didnt involve gun grabbing. You are factually only interested in gun grabbing NOT reducing gun violence. Just admit it so I dont have to report a troll thread.

 

To be useful a self-defense gun has to be loaded and at hand.

 

Yeah I want 5 years mandatory sentence for pool violators and I want essays written to the local sheriff explaining why you need a pool in the first place.

 

We could require a key to access and use a car. Wait.

 

So if someone steals my gun, and I claim they picked the lock, what happens?