Why not mandate trigger locks and locked gun cases?

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Along with making the owner of a gun who does not secure it from unauthorized use liable if a gun he/she owns is used in the commission of a crime. A mandatory 5 year sentence should get gun owner's attention.
     
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    Be specific. Would you have a mandate for every single firearm in private hands have a trigger lock 24/7?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it could be one or the other, a trigger lock or locked in a case, but I can guess where you're going with this.
     
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    In my own case, we keep guns as self defense. Locked up in a gun case with trigger locks makes that gun unavailable in the event of a home invasion.

    We keep some guns locked up and some well hidden. If there is someone in the house I am concerned about, all of them get locked up. Someone who uses one of my guns in the commission of a crime has already committed a crime by stealing one of my guns. How about we lock up the thief forever rather than punishing the law abiding people?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because in the case of gun violence we need to be preemptive. Punishing someone after the crime is not as important as keeping the crime from being committed.
     
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    Dude thirty minutes with a hand drill amd a carbide drill bit will take care of any trigger lock ever made.
     
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    Why not mandate breathalyzer interlocks on every automobile, even for people who don't drink, don't drink and drive, and have no intention of drinking or drinking and driving?
     
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    Which cannot be done by these methods.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You folks keep trying to punch holes in reasonable attempts to curb gun violence. Why is that?
     
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    But, with your proposal, you are punishing me by putting my wife and I at risk.
     
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    If someone steals your car and uses it to commit a crime without your knowledge or consent should you also receive a 5 year sentence or is this just more of your hypocritical bigotry and racism on display?
     
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    Because it isn't a reasonable attempt because it won't work.
     
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    How would this curb gun violence?
     
  14. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's try to stay focused on what we can do to prevent the epidemic of gun violence instead of making up strained analogies.
     
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    Stealing a gun is already a crime. Should we give 5 year sentences to people who own pools if people drown in them? What about box rental trucks? Jail the owners if they rented to a terrorist or is that silly?
     
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    By making guns in the household more difficult to use. No measure is a perfect solution. But we have to try to do something to make guns less available in instances like yesterday's school shooting.
     
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    It is a good point and has just as much validity as what you are proposing. None.
     
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    Heres one way. Maybe leftist actors could stop glorifying gun violence. Do you think that would help? How many threads did you start about that?
     
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    Let's try to stay focused on what we can do to prevent the epidemic of gun violence instead of making up strained analogies.
     
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    Why is there so much resistance to trying to do something about people being killed? We need to start looking at this from a public safety perspective.
     
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    yeah we are your idea is anti American.
     
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    Answer the question. This is extremely relevant as both cases are identical. You have a law abiding citizen who is robbed and the property that was stolen is used in a crime. Literally the exact same thing in both cases. Should the victim of the crime be punished in both cases?
     
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    I call these proposals "preemptive punishment laws". It's not enough that we have laws against assault, assault with a deadly weapon, murder, no sir, we have to apply seemingly endless layers of laws and punishments on top of those laws....each presenting opportunity for our politicians' clever lawyers and judges to find precedent that will justify their next proposed abuse of our individual rights and liberties.
     
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    I just gave you a great way to curb violence. You ignored it. As I suspected youre not really out to curb gun violence youre out to curb guns. You lefties dont want any solution to stop gun violence that doesnt involve further restricting guns from law abiding citizens.
     
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    Trying to prevent the unnecessary slaughter of school children is un-American?
     

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