Why put the blame on the gun?

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  1. Covfefe

    Covfefe Active Member

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    Because the mod turned his rifle into a rifle that could perform full auto. THAT is the thing out of all this you will nit pick? Christ...
     
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    Why do you not know this is absolutely false?
    Your statements here prove one of two things -- you're ignorant of the facts or you post dishonestly.
    Either way, it serves to illustrate your credibility as a poster.
    So.. which is it?
     
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    Alright so lets flesh this out, what does a bump stock do? What is its purpose?

    I know what its purpose is I'm asking for your definition.
     
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    Aha! Ignorance it is. Good of you to admit it.

    It allows a person to pull the trigger on a semi-automatic firearm a fraction faster then he could by himself.
     
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    I would no more blame the gun then I would a poison... but I would say the cause of death was gun shoot or poison, but the person using those tools did the killing

    the fact is, we as a country realize there are risks to giving all free Americans the right to own a gun... it's a right.. not a privilege like driving a car that can be revoked

    but in a free country such as ours we believe the benefits outweigh the risks
     
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    Ignorance? I told you this earlier and you got all pissy. Firing around 600 rounds a minute very easily. I know they jam so must be why he had 12 of them.
     
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    No... you said:
    "Because the mod turned his rifle into a rifle that could perform full auto"
    This is absolutely false.

    So, we're back to:
    Your statements here prove one of two things -- you are ignorant of the facts or you post dishonestly.
    Either way, it serves to illustrate your credibility as a poster.
    So.. which is it?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    let's use another example, I realize that the power we give our police offers has risks of abuse

    I would not take away that power because one abused it, I would though expect the one that abused it to be punished severely to the fullest extent of the law

    same with those that abuse the right to own a gun

    we can outlaw certain uses of speech and certain uses of guns, but not the right to either
     
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    Can you fire thousands of rounds without trigger assist and no fatigue?
     
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    I'm sorry -- I didn't see an answer to my question stemming from your false statement.

    Well?
     
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    Because it's not false it alters the original way the gun was designed to function.

    The fact that they jam easily is proof that they are being modded to do something its not intended.
     
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    This statement is also false.
    The gun still works exactly the same way - the shooter pulls the trigger once and one round is fired; the firearm remains semi-auto, and is not in any way full-auto.

    So, that's TWO false statements by you.
    I ask again: Are you arguing from ignorance or dishonesty?
     
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    Answer me this is the trigger being squeezed by your own fingers strength each time? No it circumvents how semi auto is meant to be fired. You can deny it all you want your wrong.
     
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    You made two false statements.
    I ask again: Do you argue from ignorance or dishonesty?
     
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    What false statements have I made?
     
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    When you are not physically squeezing the trigger under your own strength that is a feature that adds an automatic element. Its a pretty simple concept you seem to have trouble grasping.
     
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    C'mon. At least TRY to be honest.

    "Because the mod turned his rifle into a rifle that could perform full auto"
    "Because it's not false it alters the original way the gun was designed to function"

    Both of these statements are absolutely false.

    You made two false statements.
    I ask again: Do you argue from ignorance or dishonesty?
     
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    So an attachment that allows the trigger to be manipulated without the physical squeezing under your own strength is false? You'll have to explain your reasoning on that one...
     
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    You made two false statements.

    "Because the mod turned his rifle into a rifle that could perform full auto"
    "Because it's not false it alters the original way the gun was designed to function"

    I ask again: Do you argue from ignorance or dishonesty?
     
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    Purity police are out in full force, if you want to play that game your opening a can of worms. The truth is you can't accept that the changes to the weapon take away the need for an individual to squeeze the trigger independently at their own will and alters it to an automatic response against the trigger finger.
     

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