Why the Conservative/Libertarian philosophy is dead

First, let me define what I mean by Conservative. In this post, when I say Conservative, I mean the Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan Conservative. Which means little to no welfare state, free trade, free enterprise.

Starting with this election and going forward the Hispanic vote will be the swing vote that will decide all future elections. So the question is simple. Who do Hispanics like.

At present, the Hispanics vote is like the Black vote. Hispanics vote overwhelmingly Democrat. So guess what. Obama and the Democrats will win, today, tomorrow and forever.

Here are the facts why the Conservative philosophy is dead.

Here are the facts. Nationwide about 60% of the Latino vote votes Democrat
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1790/2010-midterm-elections-exit-poll-hispanic-vote
http://theamericano.com/2011/06/02/hispanic-vote-2010-changed-prior-elections/

One would think that if the economy was in the ditch that it would change minds. Maybe think twice about voting for the party in power? Well apparently not. The Hispanic community is suffering for more than whites. Unemployment is 13% in the Latino community. Yet, Latinos are still on Obama's side. So if you can't get Latino's to vote for you in bad times, you think they will vote for you in good times?
http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/2010/3/5/hispanic_unemployment_rate_holds_steady_at.htm

By the year 2050 whites will be a minority in the US. So the US will look like New York City. This means that Hispanics will be the largest swing vote in the US.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-02-11-population-study_N.htm

Frankly, the Conservative/Libertarian political philosophy is dead. For all those who think that a well argued political arguement is all you need to win votes, then try this. Try to run a Conservative Republican in New York City.

So if by some miracle, Romney wins the election, then enjoy it while it last, because it will be the last time Conservatives will the Presidency.

 

Hispanics are traditionally conservative in their lifestyles, especially as they get older. The republicans will just start fielding Hispanic candidates if that's what the situation calls for.

I'd be more worried about Obama successfully creating his welfare state. That will give the liberals a permanent voting block. He is well on his way to accomplishing that goal.

 

If Romney wins, there still won't be a Conservative in the White House.

I can't argue with your demographic info, but don't think for a minute that the People actually have much of a say in how this country is run. We left that notion in the the rear view mirror years ago.

What you will see as demographics change is the illusion of choice will be modified, but there will still be no choice.

[video=youtube;LbnzhTmiyec]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbnzhTmiyec[/video]

 

That does not mean a thing. Having a Hispanic on the ticket does not guarantee the Hispanic vote. Just like a Black Republican does not guarantee the Black vote.

What I see is that Hispanic voter are looking more and more like the Black vote. Black voters vote Democratic or stay home on election night. They don't vote Republican.

 

There has been no libertarian ideology implemented. Goldwater had a falling out with Republican party. Plus, he was a strong nationalist which leaves a bad taste in many libertarians mouths.

Reagan was a big government, statist Republican, not a libertarian.

 

Hispanic vote isn't the swing vote. The independents and moderates are the swing votes as they make up 40% of the electorate. To date, Romney is leading obama by 13 points for the moderate/independent vote. Sorry to have ruined your fairy tale.

 

A moderate is not the same thing as an independent. A moderate is someone who does not have a backbone and tries to straddle both the GOP and the Dems, like Obama and Romney.

They are people without conviction who hide behind the false facade of pragmatism. America is filled with moderates and we are not better off for it since they are trapped in this false dichotomy.

 

As if Romney is a conservative??
(written by an independent)

 

The up coming election will be decided in battle ground states. Colorado, Florida, and Nevada are all battle ground states that have a Hispanic swing vote. The Latino vote is the swing vote that could decide the election.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...-the-battlegrounds-that-could-determine-2012/

My point is maybe not this election, but for sure, in the future the Hispanic vote will be a force that will end the minimal government philosophy in the US.

 

The "minimal government philosophy" has never been reprosented in our government in any meaningful way. Waste and graft is what government is known for and that is for a reason.

 

Not true. Not true.

In the 19th century the Federal government was about 1% of GDP. The federal government was virtually non existent.

The old style America that practice rugged individualism is finished. Finished because the Latin vote wants more and more government. Just look at their voting patterns. They keep voting Democrat.

 

The OP is a misguided post. I'm not sure if it's non sequitur or just plain ignorance.

 

This is so far from the truth that it's both funny and not funny at the same time.

Moderates are people who likely have various opinions that fall into both the right and the left. They likely favor moderation, not extremism in any direction. It has nothing to do with backbone, you're simply trying to coral people into one of two groups, and that's not the way life works.

 

That's like saying someone must want a Twix bar because they are in the candy bar isle. You don't think the somewhat anti-immigration Republican party has anything to do with them favoring the Democrats?

 

If your supposed "conservative" GOP would support the US constitution in matters such as the "Patriot Act" which is an obvious Stalinist left wing document, maybe you could carry the day. What the GOP has turned into since neoCONS like Bush I, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Kristol, Perle, Cheney et al have hijacked your party is a sick and disgusting spectacle. You profess to hate "Libs" but your party is controlled by a bunch of commie socialists who take every opportunity to suck Israel's tiny dick and sell out US interests along with our constitution and bill of rights. You are a Lib champie, but you're too ignorant to realize it.

Cheers mate......

 

No. Anti Immigration is really a problem for Mexicans. Puerto Ricans don't have this problem because they are part of the US. So they can travel freely to and from the US. Yet, Puerto Ricans vote Democrat almost exclusively.

Look thru out Latin American and Spain. Is there anything that resembles a free market South of the Border? No of course not. Latinos come from nations that practice anything but. They bring that attitude to their voting behaviors to the US. Hence the death of the Conservative philosophy.

 

Maybe a professional journalist might change your mind. Conservatives are losing their way of life.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/pat-buchanan/is-gop-still-a-national-party.html

 

Reagan a conservative how so tripled the debt raised taxes every year but one, and expanded government. Sounds like a socialist, liberal, scumbag to me! Or it is atleast what the ninnies call Obama, even though he lowered taxes

 

I don't know if this is something to brag about in the age of Justin beiber and reality tv shows.

American culture has devolved into a disease.

 

It's not fair to judge Reagan because he had to deal with a Democratic congress and senate.

You need to keep an eye in state governments where Republicans have complete control of everything. There you see Conservatives in action.

 

Now that you have lost all credability on your thread let me point some things out to you! Republicans controlled the Senate for 6 years of Reagan big spending riegn. Dems reganined control in 1986. You are factually wrong on saying Reagan had a Dem congress. Furthermore we have seen what happened under Bush 2 when Republicans had controll of both the house and the senate massive expansion of government. Pay offs to the rich and corporations, and wars. Again you fail.

The funny thing is you mention the state level? Cuts in healthcare, massive abortion bills, massive cuts to education, and an all out war on the working class. Are you kidding me.

Please spare me with the myth that Dems were in charge of Regans masssive spending, illegal gun running, and taxation. I understand conservative like to hold Reagan in high regard but history shows how bad he really was. His economic policy was so bad after he cut taxes he had to raise them every year and still tripled the debt. However if you must carry on with the myth of Reagan, and the right wing social engineering. Coservative/Republicans/*********s or whatever you people call yourselves have done a major part of the damage done to this country. I really wish you people would just leave and start your own religious based, war mongering, slave country elsewhere and quit using my tax dollars to do it.

 

Mitt Romney is hardly a conservative.

 

Mitt does not even know what he is from day to day. The big problem with Mitt he views the presidency as his right and he will say whatever he has to, to get it. Mitt the flip will be fun to watch over the coming months.

 

I don't know what to tell you. Reagan had to deal with a Democratic house. Just as Obama has to deal with a Democratic house. Is if fair to judge Obama when he has to water down his policies because of Republicans. No it's not. You want to judge Obama? Judge him when he had complete control of the House and Senate.

Just look at what happened when the Republicans took back the House. They forced Obama to sign a tax cut for the rich. Now is Obama a Conservative?