Will we ever tire of being so giving?

My dear child; that is what leadership is about; being decisive and totally disregarding the abjectly uninformed opinion of the proletariat.

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George Bush is long gone and good riddance.

 

Can't argue with that. I'm not too sure how that means that's it's now become OK to repeat the very crap we didn't like from him and by the very people that made such a stink about what he was doing at the time. Yeah - that makes sense...

 

They definitely ignore the opinions of the public on a lot of things in many governments.

While it is true that the public is often ignorant, there are plenty of policies where ignoring the public is tantamount to oppression. For example, America and many other First World nations have increased the scope of their surveillance states at the expense of privacy and various other rights. Most of the public clearly doesn't like that.

When it comes to immigration policy, the agenda is clear. Big business wants cheap labor. Big business also wants a crowded labor market, so that wages can stagnate or fall.

So when the public desires stricter controls on immigration, it's often with regard to desiring the preservation of standard of living.

 

Irrelevant?

So, here we appear to have an admission that this political weapon being used against us, to undermine our nations, to ensure a consensus is hard to reach, to ensure that more and more immigrants can just come here, no quality control or proof they can look after their own ass, and when PEOPLE of OUR nation speak out....you are telling me it is 'irrelevant'..?

Dog in the fight?

 

Lovely.

The thing is though, you aren't 'improving the lives' of the people of the host nation, are ya?

Nah.

Your come one come all attitude, not a care for who they are or if they can support their ass and the kids they churn out, I am sure that improves the lives of those who come here from countries that are simply behind us.

It doesn't improve the lives of those that have to live among some of the towns and cities into which they fear to venture, and it doesn't improve their lives if these freeloaders can just come here and expect the host people to pay the bill.

They were born to their own land, that is where they belong.

They should stay there and help make something of it, rather than come here and turn once good neighbourhoods into ghetto's.

 

You mischaracterize my statement. What the people of Europe think in regards to Monaco is irrelevant. Monaco does call itself a principality, which is meant to mean that it's head of state is titularly a prince. That Israel calls itself a state does not take away that it is still an independent country with diplomatic recognition by the United Nations.

 

Had a friend come back from Japan not so long ago. Said it was a very friendly place and they enjoyed being there a lot. As we can clearly see, Japan have not been rigged up to this third world immigration machine, that just keeps on churning them into Europe, American, Austalia, Canada. Japan have then naturally retained their culture and heritage better, and perhaps it is little wonder then that they are known as a studious and industrious people, after all, you would want to do well for yourself and your country, if it still felt Japanse, right?

No one calls the Japanse hateful for wanting to keep strict immigration controls.

No one hates on the Japanese for wanting to hold on to their heritage and be a majority in their own land.

No one hates on Japan because they refuse to let a Somalian in who cannot speak Japanese, and has no idea how to support himself.

It is just in Europe and the US, and ONLY in Europe and the US that we are forced to accept what the Japanese would and do not accept.

 

Forget Monaco.

Do you or do you not feel that anyone who wants to go live in a land they were not born into should be able to demonstrate they can fully support themselves and any partner they wish to bring in?

Do you or do you not support the rights of the public to say they do not want it, and expect that to be reflected in their 'representative' Gov's..?

 

I already gave my opinion on the first question within reply #8 to this thread, on the first post.

I believe the will of any people, so long as it is consistent with the Constitution of that particular country, should be respected and codified into law.

 

Oh thank you we are so fortunate to have wise elders like yourself and dictators who know what us peasants need. Seemingly we need to be turned into 3rd world cesspools with higher crime while you need our cash to pay for higher welfare.

Theres a very good reason for that, Japanese are white so they can preserve their homelands, history, culture ect. The anti-white racists ONLY have a problem if whites do it. China, India, Korea, Japan, the ME, rest of Asia....... the rest of the world for that matter, dont have to buy into this multicultural ideal because well - they aint whites. The problem is leftism has become a religion for many in the West, they so favor the minority they happily replace Europes native people with minorities who are the majority of the world.....yes its crazy thinking. They claim, im white i cant be racist - but cant see past their cult beliefs that see them only critical of whites having their homeland where they can self determine their own destinies.

 

Interesting.

So, if I am reading you correctly, this is an incremental attempt at a genocide of the white race?

Genocide is a word oft misunderstood, it doesn't mean 'all the people are dead'.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

Perhaps you have a point...

[video=youtube;lKDeyuM0-Og]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=lKDeyuM0-Og[/video]

 

Far-right Indian racists are opposed to immigration and diversity...

[video=youtube;Xo5RScEhqtY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo5RScEhqtY&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

 

Correction from my post: 'Japanese aren't white so they can preserve their homelands, history, culture ect'

Well they understand the term genocide elsewhere in places like Tibet. But then they argue whites arent a genotype or race but non whites are a genotype and have race.

 

Europeans are not only a people and a race, they are the most successful people of all time, anywhere. I accept the present generation may not be our best one, but in almost every field you care to think of, it has been Europeans and American Europeans who have led the way. This is a fact that non Europeans or those not of European heritage have an issue with, or sometimes you get the self hating whites that would gladly see Europe turned into a third world (*)(*)(*)(*) hole, just so long as they could sit in the streets and eat rats with the now 'locals'.

I would bet you my last £1 that if you ran a fair referendum and actually asked Europeans if we wanted Somalians here, or Bangladeshi, or Nigerians, that the majority would say NO, they did not.

And of course, rather than this fact being logical and based on self preservation, it would obviously mean we are all 'hateful racists that want to bring back slavery' lol.

Our Gov's will never ask us this question, for they KNOW what I say is right, and that is not the answer that they want.

It's not like they are even respectful when they get here. I would love to look at some of the crime stats from Germany, that are carried out by these peace loving immigrants, including rape and theft.

To summarise.

Our politicians are carrying out a collective agenda of importing endless numbers of third and second world immigrants into Europe and the US.

They are merely asked to be able to prove they can support themselves. This becomes 'racist'. They are asked to prove they an support any family they bring forward. Again this is of course 'racist'.

To be 'non racist', what we must really do in the US and Europe is simply let them all come here, they could have a criminal record, they could be riddled with whatever disease, they may have eight kids and no money, come one come all.

But even that is not enough. Then we Europeans and Americans must allow them to rape our women, steal from our old, rob our shops, and turn neighbourhoods into entire ghetto's. We must take this quietly, else we are racists that want to join the KKK.

I used to think old Enoch Powell was off the mark with his rivers of blood speech.

Maybe he had a point....

 

Jackster - you can see this from 2006.(below).

But it's fine in the eyes of groups like AFA and our politicians.

As long as the victims are white natives, it's fine.

The Guardian: Racial murders: nearly half the victims are white

Home Office release official figures as police claim that political correctness is stifling the debate

Nearly half of all victims of racially motivated murders in the last decade have been white, according to official figures released by the Home Office.The data, released under Freedom of Information legislation, shows that between 1995 and 2004 there have been 58 murders where the police consider a racial element played a key part. Out of these, 24 have been where the murder victim was white.

The disclosure will add to the intense debate over multiculturalism in British society. The figures also overturn the assumption that almost all racial murders are committed against ethnic minority victims.Senior police officers have admitted that 'political correctness’ and the fear of discussing the issue have meant that race crime against white people goes under-reported. One chief constable has claimed that white, working-class men are more alienated than the Muslim community.

Peter Fahy, the Chief Constable of Cheshire and a spokesman on race issues for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said it was a fact that it was harder to get the media interested where murder victims were young white men.'The political correctness and reluctance to discuss these things absolutely does play a factor’, he said. 'A lot of police officers and other professions feel almost the best thing to do is try and avoid it for fear of being criticised. We probably have all got ourselves into a bit of state about this.

'The difficulty in the police service is that the whole thing is being closed down because we are all afraid of discussing any of it in case we say the wrong thing - and that is not healthy.'These latest official figures give the most complete picture of racially motivated murders in the UK, revealing the situation to be much more complex.

'There are a lot of young white working-class lads, particularly on the more difficult estates, who are hugely alienated. Yet very little attention is given to that’


http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/oct/22/ukcrime.race

 

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

 

[MENTION=59284]Jackster[/MENTION].

When it can clearly been seen with our own eyes, and as above(and that is just one example), that having shown the compassion and altruism to take these people in, how they repay us?

Here is a girl who was giving a charming gift by these lovely people that AFA et all protect, so that they can go on raping and looting.

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Swedish girls Malin and Amanda were on their way to a party on New Year’s Eve when they were assaulted, raped and beaten half to death by four Somali immigrants. Sweden’s largest newspaper has presented the perpetrators as “two men from Sweden, one from Finland and one from Somalia”, a testimony as to how bad the informal censorship is in stories related to immigration in Sweden. Similar incidents are reported with shocking frequency, to the point where some observers fear that law and order is completely breaking down in the country. The number of rape charges in Sweden has tripled in just above twenty years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six - 6 - times as common today as they were a generation ago. Most other kinds of violent crime have rapidly increased, too. Instability is spreading to most urban and suburban areas.

According to a new study from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå, it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. According to these statistics, almost half of all perpetrators are immigrants. In Norway and Denmark, we know that non-Western immigrants, which frequently means Muslims, are grossly overrepresented on rape statistics. In Oslo, Norway, immigrants were involved in two out of three rape charges in 2001. The numbers in Denmark were the same, and even higher in the city of Copenhagen with three out of four rape charges. Sweden has a larger immigrant, including Muslim, population than any other country in northern Europe. The numbers there are likely to be at least as bad as with its Scandinavian neighbors. The actual number is thus probably even higher than what the authorities are reporting now, as it doesn’t include second generation immigrants. Lawyer Ann Christine Hjelm, who has investigated violent crimes in Svea high court, found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on foreign soil or by foreign parents.

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/muslim_rape_wave_in_sweden/

 

All civilizations have immigrants and migrants and Britain was a pretty grey place into the 50s- 60s, not surprisingly after 2 bloody Wars, so some color/diversity wasn't a bad thing but ................. I lived next door to an old couple just after Thatcher got in. The woman was born in and had lived in the same house, in London, all her life, she married and had and bought up her children in that same house. She said her kitchen window, where she had a table, looked out onto the street, that she sat there in the day and knew every one who passed by,children, grandchildren, great grandchildren of so and so and so and so .................... They suddenly decided that her house was unfit for human habitation because it had an outside loo, everyone in the street was moved out, rehoused, the community split up, their houses were done up and immigrant families moved in. Now I don't and she didn't blame the immigrant families who were housed in the road but what was the motivation behind it?

If I hadn't known that old couple I would never have known this happened, that whole communities were so treated but I have since found out it happened all over England and still is. Why?

We can't blame anyone for trying to better themselves ...................... but if there were true fair trade in the World it would be otherwise, it would be more balanced..

 

Im proud of what my ancestors achieved, the civilization they built, they struggles for equality under the law ect but i stop short of saying the most successful people of all time, anywhere ect. Just because what we have suits us doesnt mean its better than what others have built and like, that sort of stuff doesnt really matter to me. Ill support the Chinese rights to China, like the Japanese right to Japan as Africans in Africa Europeans to the West. All deserve a homeland where their race, cultures and history can thrive - they cab build what ever they like. While i mightnt like to live in a grass hut with lions at the door i can admire different peoples and cultures. To me that is true diversity and should be preserved.

Of course such a referendum would be crushed, the elites know it, thats why one was never offered. The religion zealots of Marxism wont allow small things such as the people's wishes to get in the way.

Enoch Powell was spot on, and sadly leftist ideology encourages race tensions by not allowing the people to have their say and by playing the victim hood/ race cards that whitey is evil and deserves whatever they get.

 

Right, white populations are so boring. We xenophilic progressives are excited by the foreign. We don't know what it is, exactly, and we don't care about the consequences, but like a moth to the flame, we are drawn to it.

 

Could not agree more.

We've been tricked. Because we are the most naturally empathetic people with a NATURAL desire to help those in need, when they first launched their Weapons Of Mass Human Destruction, they way it was sold to us(and still is) took advantage most cynically of our kind and accommodating nature.

What has now become apparent is that this was never about goodness but about undermining Europe, our heritage, our culture, our social norms, our customs, and our religions. The same is true in parts of the US.

This was not a well intended plan that has gone a bit awry.

It was a plan conceived and executed with malice, for the sole purpose of destroying us from within.

We have already heard from the police in the Guardian article how they are AFRAID to even recognise crimes against white locals, if the crimes are carried about by these vermin that have been let loose to live among us. Go read the item again, count how many times the word fear was used.

In other words, the police and authorities are simply giving these immigrants a free pass to attack us, be racist toward us, rape our women, attack our old people, steal, sell drugs, whatever they like.

This then clearly sends out the message to these savages that they are allowed to do this, and so it becomes self perpetuating.

Under reported and censored out of the media.

If that is not a clear agenda I don't know what is.

They Gov know full well this is going on, yet they have no intention of actually stopping in. No matter what Gov you get now, rest assured they are going to keep on pouring this sewage into our lands, to rape and kill us.

And our media, complicit as they are, they will ignore it, or distort it to make it sound like it was not immigrants.

Our police will refuse to record the crimes out of fear.

AFA and other leftist bastard groups will say NOTHING and probably rub their hands at their barbarian pals murdering locals.

Sweden was a beautiful country. They do not need these Somalians. It owes them NOTHING. Nothing at all. Not a single thing does Sweden or anywhere else owe them. They add NOTHING to Sweden other than rape and crime and turning places to (*)(*)(*)(*).

It's time we realised our natural empathy and kindness has been most cynically abused, and restored countries like Sweden to what they were until not so long ago.

Not only do we have natural kindness as a people, but we are often painstakingly patient.

Do you think the Iranians or the North Koreans would allow a bunch of wild Somalians run around raping and looting in their land?

No nation should have to tolerate this crap, and if none of our political class will stand up and DO something to stop it, then they either need to be replaced by those who will, or if need be there is going to have to be an informal people's Gov, almost like a second Gov, and comprising of native Swedes, Brits, Germans or whatever. Naturally, as part of this, and because our own Gov's will not defend us, there would be a defensive unit attached.

 

Only 47% of people have full time jobs. 7% of those work for government. The other 40%, the productive sector, has to pay for the other 60%, plus compliance costs. There should be no wonder there is a gap in America. Most people aren't working, or aren't working enough hours. The unemployed level is pretty much the same size as the productive sector now. Only a democrat wouldn't think is wasnt a drain on the bottom half of the statistics.

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Don't tell me a little immigration ruined your social welfare state? Lol.

 

I can't take credit. It's Whitaker's "mantra".

Very well said.

The absolute worst part of all is that a very large percentage, if not the majority of whites in the US and Europe (I will wager Europeans are more affected by it), are supporters of this anti-white initiative. They want more non-white immigration. They want less white people in their own countries. Do you think these leftists would ever say "there are too many black people in Detroit... we need less blacks and more whites"? Don't count on it. They don't have a single problem with homogeneity. Hispanic areas, black areas, Asian areas, Arab areas... no problem. However, white areas "need more color and culture".

 

Here is an interesting FACT.

The Vice President of the US of A said in public that he affords most of the credit for third world immigration to Jews.

He was gushing about it as well, and before anyone tells me he is an idiot, that is NOT the point.

The point is that he IS VP and he did say it. Not so much as a murmur of protest about this from the usually sensitive about anything Jewish groups, nothing from the ADL to deny it or counter the claim.

When the VP of the US says in public it was mostly down to Jews, and Jews do not deny it, then it is not 'hateful' to state it.

What is hateful are the actual actions which the VP is heralding the Jews for, while at the same time as being at the forefront of pouring this into the US, Jews also work hard to ensure Israel is kept as a 'Jewish state'. Funny how Jews can trumpet for multi cultural BS into the US and Europe, yet never do these Jews want to bring such 'gifts' and 'joys' to Israel, do they..

A more perfect example of the stunning in your face hypocrisy can barely be imagined.

Another mistake we make in our naturally kind outlook is to assume that these people are going to be 'just like us', that they will have first world values.

Even when the stats(as cited) show them NOT to have the same values at all, no one will report it, no politician will say it.

 

After the War Britain was ......in mourning? We were still rebuilding bomb damage into the 60s, and we had lost almost everything, Those who immigrated here at first were ex salves from the West Indies and they were asked to come because we didn't have enough workers, and they were not treated well. So it wasn't quite as you say then Eboch Powell because we didn't have enough Drs for the NHS invited Indian Docs here. The trouble started with Idi Amin throwing out all Asians from Uganda . I never understood why people were upset about them coming here but then it didn't stop, a flood gate opened and then Europe and soon Bulgaria and Romania ..................... it will not be the skilled nor educated who come here.


It is the imbalance that is the problem, there is no work for our own with all Industries and factories and so on closed and some of the deprived areas are like War Zones now worse than Victorian England in places.