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Wisconsin appeals court upholds 'right-to-work' law, dealing blow to unions

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you seem to think this discussion is a joke.
     
    Ronstar, Sep 19, 2017
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    What?
     
    MolonLabe2009, Sep 19, 2017
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right To Work States say that Unions must represent & protect all employees, whether or not they pay Union dues.
     
    Ronstar, Sep 20, 2017
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    You appear to support forcing people to support one party.
     
    Hoosier8, Sep 20, 2017
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    Hoosier8, Sep 20, 2017
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    LOL keep thinking that.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 20, 2017
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    Federal law does not obligate unions to represent non-members. Unions only represent non-union workers when union executives take on exclusive bargaining representation.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 20, 2017
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    you seem desperate to derail this thread
     
    Ronstar, Sep 20, 2017
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    Federal law requires Unions that have exclusive bargaining agreements to represent and protect all workers, even if they don't pay Union dues.
     
    Ronstar, Sep 20, 2017
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    Only on exclusive bargaining representation.
     
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    if you really care about protecting the interests of workers, a Union would never enter into an agreement OTHER than an exclusive bargaining agreement.

    if you have 3 unions representing the same workers at a plant, there can be no unity and the bosses can take advantage of different union agendas and goals.

    one union is the best way to do it, otherwise its a mess
     
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    To join a union is not a constitutional right.

    While I believe unions are generally necessary, the government has the right to regulate in this matter.
     
    JakeStarkey, Sep 20, 2017
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    Funny, I never benefited from the Union or its protection. I negotiated and earned my pay rate from hard work and education.
     
    Toefoot, Sep 20, 2017
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    i seriously doubt that.

    i have co-workers that claim to have not benefited from the Unions, while they ignore all the current benefits they have due to years of Union struggles
     
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    ok
     
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    Union Bosses ‘Are Not Forced by Federal Law to Be Exclusive Bargaining Representatives; They Seek This Power of Their Own Volition’
     
    Hoosier8, Sep 20, 2017
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    Same here. I never join a union even through they tried like hell to get join.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 20, 2017
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    EMTdaniel86, Sep 20, 2017
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    Never been union either.
     
    Hoosier8, Sep 20, 2017
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    Wrong.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Sep 20, 2017
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    Unions are as useless at tits on a boar hog in most cases. All it accomplishes at the end of the day is higher production costs which drive pricing higher, punishes consumers, and make the US that much more non-competitive.
     
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    LOL what is funny, is that you just summarized in 4 lines what I had to learn in a 18 week college class.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 20, 2017
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    My beef with unions is that it eliminates rewarding exceptionalism, and promotes mediocrity.
     
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    Correct. Merit based compensation is toast. It's nothing but seniority rewarding only days worked without getting fired. Not only that, a janitor can't even change a light bulb, we need to call the electricians guild.:roll:
    Inefficient as hell.
     
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    Early on, I had an employer heavily invest in providing me with technical training. Not based on seniority, but productivity, and work ethic. Ambition, combined with commitment = success in an open labor market.
     
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