Wisconsin: Past due Farmer loans hit 18 year high

Let me know when you do remember.

 

Farm bankrupties are actually declining nationally

 

You can look it up. I don’t care. I have to try and keep up with current regulations and farm bill content, I’m not looking up stuff from years ago.

SOP is for politicians to hatch a brilliant idea. Explain it vaguely to Farm Service Agency employee. Pass a bill that is quite different with an immediate implementation date. Farmers/ranchers line up to sign up. FSA employees have no idea how to implement the program. They tell producers to come back in 30 days after training on the programs has been given to FSA employees. On it goes.

To be clear, I’m not being partisan here at all. The stupidest program ever was a drought mitigation plan hatched by Dubya. They bought powdered milk from the dairy industry, mixed it with some sugar beet byproduct and poured it into 250 lb blocks in plastic lick tubs. Then handed it out like dimestore candy to ranchers, goat and sheep producers, etc.

People fed a lot of it. All their animal’s teeth fell out.

If you want to do something constructive, call your senators and representatives and tell them to stop giving crap to farmers. Seriously.

 

Should I tell them to stop giving subsidies too.

 

Absolutely.

 

And your Great Leader has his hands out asking for more foreign help to be re-elected.....what a shame he has to depend on Putin to stay in office....

 

Literally the most idiotic thing I've ever read on this board and I'm serious. Wow stay in your lane because you are out of your league.

 

Your responses are propaganda in the 1st degree, do you work for CNN?

 

BS every farm is a corporate farm and many factors have contributed farmers adding more land. Equipment prices being a major one. Give you an example a new cotton bailer cost $850,000 bucks and can pick 140 acres a day. So you tell me how many acres you need to farm to justify that purchase.

 

N/m you explained it well in another post.

 

I’m glad everyone is paying attention to their food supply. We producers would much rather hear from you than have government telling us what it is they think you should want.

 

Because you know absolutely nothing about the industry and refuse to listen.

 

You are describing yourself again, sir.

 

As Biden says who worries about the details.

 

Absolutely, I'm in the industry as well and the government paying farmers to keep food prices down is and always will be the Achilles heal for farmers. You don't want it and only ask for true market prices but neither Republicans' nor democrat's will ever go for that because food prices will increase. The Obama era hurt prices along with ethanol uses maxed out and when corn dropped 75% other commodities suffered and hasn't recovered since. Some farmers have tried to offset losses by increasing acreage, spreading out fixed cost and some by reducing cost both can be severe if not done properly. I think it's hilarious some in this thread calling these farmers large corporate farming operations receiving huge tax breaks lol.

 

If you're talking to me than it explains your ignorance as usual. I've been this industry for over 25 years, you've been reading the Huffington Post and thinking you actual know something or even understand something about this industry. Typical.

 

How many farmers turn down those subsidies.

 

I agree.

As far as subsidies I don’t think people understand how prevalent they are in every industry and how it creates dependency. Do you fly? Your getting government subsidies. Take the train? Yep. Had a buddy in construction ask me about farm subsidies once. I asked him if he knew why he’d been doing so many small remodels. Nope. Well, there had been a big push in his state to utilize LIHEAP money. He was raking in federal subsidies and didn’t even realize it.

It’s insane but I agree it won’t end. Too bad.

 

Think about what you're saying. Explain how a farmer could turn it down and receive better pricing than the market that every other farmer sells through?

 

From his own mouth....

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/id-...ten-foreigners-offered-dirt/story?id=63669304

 

Yeap same as the leader before, him and the one before him, what's your point?

 

I specifically said "large corporate farms" as the ConAgra size class. So save BS accusations. . If read what I said you would have seen that I stated that the large corporate farms are indeed efficient in production and cost contaiment. After all the economies of scale and large purchasing power do help control costs.

 

Maybe they could grow another crop.

 

Ahh understand your mistake ConAgra is NOT a large corporate farm, they are a Food producer that buys product from farmers. Your argument was flawed from that point on.

 

Come on surely you know they grow anything they can right? Surely you understand soil composition, irrigation availability and environmental factors dictate what you can grow right? You're not talking about a bunch of dumb guys throwing seed out here, you're dealing shrewd businessmen that evaluate and have to adapt based on things under their control and factors outside of there control, like regulation. My advice would be is listen to the one's in this thread that actually are in the industry that's telling you this is not a political problem, it's government control over the last 30 years.