Women detail sexual allegations against Trump

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  1. waltky

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    Uncle Ferd already leary o' womens - he says right when ya think dey's yer buddy - dey'll slap ya with a sexy harassment lawsuit...
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    Will Misconduct Scandals Make Men Wary of Women at Work?
    December 11, 2017 — Some women, and men, worry the same climate that’s emboldening women to speak up about sexual misconduct could backfire by making some men wary of female colleagues.
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    Four Senators Call on Trump to Resign Over Misconduct Allegations
    December 11, 2017 Four U.S. senators have called for President Donald Trump to resign over allegations of sexual misconduct on Monday. “President Trump should resign,” Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a Democrat from New York, said during an interview Monday on CNN. “These allegations are credible; they are numerous. I’ve heard these women’s testimony, and many of them are heartbreaking.”
     
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    I stand corrected.

    Even at the height if GWBushes stumble through his Presidency, never did I believe that he didn't love and respect the office for which he stood. Yeah he let Chaney basically do whatever he wanted, but he still communicated the gravitas that your countries past actions earned.

    I may not have liked almost everything he did, but I respected him.

    Trump isn't fit to lick GWBushs boots.

    Yes your country protects the world in a lot of ways and is an essential component to the global puzzle, but the majority of that work is carried out by brave men and women who understand that same gravitas. Your country is great, filled with great people. But it's led by petty morons.

    First off, I haven't been a mod for 2 years now.

    Second - I've yet to see legal proceedings against Anyone accused of this stuff. If your line is the legal side of things, then every one of these accused deserves their jobs back until found guilty in a court of law. Or they could be sued for libel. Like Moore could be doing to show the conviction of his denial.
     
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    It's now 19 women and countless many others are yet to come forward.
     
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    I find it hilarious that the liberals who have been advocating promiscuity over the last few decades have become such prudes as to consider kissing a girl you think is receptive a sexual assault. I think it is hilarious that the film and media has made "shut up and kiss her" a romatically programmed theme, but as it is all you have to cling to against our President, doing so is, today, practically rape.

    Conscent is for things that matter, like sex, not petty romance. I don't care where the wind blows your concept of what is and isn't moral, but I think it is sad that if you gain power again my son might need forms signed in triplicate to kiss a girl he likes. Seems... a lackluster future born of irrational pettiness.

    Just curious, how far is one able to go to defend themselves from this grave assault you have endowed in a kiss? If a gal, or guy, were to try and kiss me, can I punch them? Shoot them?
     
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    Not according to them they were about to send him and his wife back to the White House.

    "O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: "We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired.
    The vice president's office had no immediate comment, but John Snow, who replaced O'Neill, insisted that deficits "do matter" to the administration."

    The GOP that balanced the budget producing surpluses and O'Neil was wrong the deficit hit a one year high of $400B before the tax rate cura were fully implimented. Once they were the economy took off and the deficits rapidly fell and the Reoublicans handed the Democrats a paltry $161B deficit in 2007. And that is not even a direct quote but hearsay from a disgruntled fired treasury secretary.
     
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    "Four Senators Call on Trump to Resign Over Misconduct Allegations
    December 11, 2017 Four U.S. senators have called for President Donald Trump to resign over allegations of sexual misconduct on Monday. “President Trump should resign,” Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a Democrat from New York, said during an interview Monday on CNN. “These allegations are credible; they are numerous. I’ve heard these women’s testimony, and many of them are heartbreaking.”
    She added that if Trump does not immediately resign, Congress “should have appropriate investigations of his behavior and hold him accountable.” "

    What an idiot.
     
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    Correct there hasn't been any legal proceedings against them there for they are innocent if your standards are the same as our justice system
    but here you are assigning guilt on accusations alone with no collaborating evidence a very low standard
    no better of a standard they used during the Salem witch hunt which just the accusations of being a witch had you burned at the stake
     
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    The political landscape is not a court of law, Mitt Romney is smarter than you listen to him.
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    Also do I need to post all the audio clips of Trump talking about walking into women's locker rooms, grabbing women, being able to do whatever he wants to women because of who he is again? HE HAS ALREADY ADMITTED ON TAPE TO THIS STUFF.

    Seriously have you heard them?

    Stop trying to defend a self admitted sexual assaulter you just look foolish.
     
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    So you don't think that public perception has any baring on a Politicians Career?
     
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    If you did you wouldn't have questioned it.

    So someone has to go to jail before you believe what the law actually says? That's your argument?

    Think about what you are saying. If its not going to be enforced why was it passed at all?
     
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    With sexual harassment now being taken more seriously after MeToo. Trump may not be able to survive this
     
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    then according to Mitts low ball standards of guilt he is a sexist animal abuser because he had been accused of both during his campaign
     
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    depends how the public derived at that perception if it is just on accusations alone then that society hasn't progressed any further then how it was during the Salam witch hunt and that is dam sad
     
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    Now that the Russian collusion fake story is failing the dems are now trying a different tactic by eating their own to appear pure.
     
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    spare me. you guys are trying to depose a sitting president. quit acting like you have morals.
     
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    we couldn't get mitt romney to attack the left the way he attacks his own.
     
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    this is the left trying to shape public perception
     
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    elaborate
     
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    And none of that was a problem until now. Why?

    Tell me, has anyone ever kissed you without your consent? Patted you on the ass, touched you on the arm, or anything like that? Have you ever done it to other people? What you're asking for, based merely on politics and deep seated hatred, is that most of the country wakes up tomorrow and finds themselves unemployed.

    BTW, you do know that women reporters go into male locker rooms all the time, doncha?
     
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    As far as the sexual assault/harassment accusations against Trump?

    If people really cared, he never would've been elected.

    Many of Trump's Voters may have sincerely believed Trump's accusers.

    However, they still voted for this UNPREPARED IMBECILE.

    Things like the future of the SCOTUS, etc...were more important to them than the behavior of a serial rapist (like Trump). :smfh:

    It is what it is. :salute:
     
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    I questioned your interpretation of it.

    Discrimination against individuals goes beyond simply 'using the wrong pronoun'. Here, i'll let this explain better

    It's overblown histeronics from the So-Con crazies. You'll also notice that this law has been on the books in various Canadian Jurisdictions since 2002 and nobody has gone to jail over it.

    Ok, not an unreasonable point of view. I think my next point would be, that when one considers that lawsuits can be stretched out into considerable lengths by those with the means to do so (Politicians are perfect examples of this) and in many cases, those doing the accusing lack these same means. Would you say the difficulty of getting through a lawsuit, or one in a timely manner (especially considering the relatively short length between elections for many of these same politicians) might create a situation where a politican could manipulate the system long enough to get passed elections?
     
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    and look at it the other way if just accusations with no other evidence can destroy one chance of ever getting elected or ones political career then you weaponized sexual assault accusations to defeat your opponent
    you are creating an effective tactic if you want to win an election just go out find one or two women to make accusations of sexual assault don't need any other proof those accusations alone will be enough
    Who in the hell would ever want to run for public office if that is the new rules of the game
     
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    I do agree with you there. It's a very fine line that requires a very balanced approach. Personally, If I see multiple women, over time, creating a pattern then that individual should at the very least, make every effort to explain his/her actions. Someone like Trump is a good example where those issues were known prior to his running for office. Moore, while abhorrent, at least has the fact that these allegations came out during his election as a bit of a fall-back argument.
     
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    No. You didn't. You denied it existed and I had to provide it.

    LOL You didn't explain anything. You quoted a far left editorial from "Sexual University Studies"

    Did you really think I wouldn't find it?

    http://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-16-no-its-not-about-criminalizing-pronoun-misuse/

    Their opinion is worthless because the law itself does actually call for punishment for using the wrong pronoun.

    The Ontario Human Rights Commission has stated, in the context of equivalent provisions in the Ontario Human Rights Code, that “refusing to refer to a trans person by their chosen name and a personal pronoun that matches their gender identity … will likely be discrimination when it takes place in a social area covered by the Code, including employment, housing and services like education.”

    Unlike you I'm not going to try and hide where I got my information from.

    http://nationalpost.com/opinion/bru...aw-to-use-reasonable-pronouns-like-ze-and-zer

    Good Lord Cubed. At least read the law and not the editorial nonsense of a far left website to justify your claims.


    Prohibited grounds of discrimination
    3 (1) For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered.
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    Definition of identifiable group
    (4) In this section, identifiable group means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.
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    (i) evidence that the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, or on any other similar factor,


    Actual government website not a far left editorial trying to justify it-----> http://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-16/royal-assent

    That;s the actual law not the lies your opinion piece lying about its contents. It absoltuely criminalizes using what some freak considers the wrong pronoun for themselves.



    Wrong again. C16 has never been on the books for even half of a year. And your "various jurisdictions" have limited free speech of at least one college professor. Are you proud of that? Punishing someone for using the correct biological pronoun for a person?

    https://torontolife.com/city/u-t-professor-sparked-vicious-battle-gender-neutral-pronouns/

    Is this what Canada considers progress because its the same kind of thought police the Nazis used to take over Germany. Criminalizing thought and freedom of expression.
     
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