Women have equality. Why are they upset with paying alimony and child support?

that's a silly question. third wave feminism isn't about equality or responsibility. it's about blame and taking advantage of victimhood status. this is the same phenomenon we see in the third wave of every "equality" movement. it is a phenomenon that modern liberalism/progressivism has used to build their base.

 

If you don't know your rights and the constitution, soon you don't have them. And the 13th was removed because people don't know their rights and how the constitution is the basis of law for the entire country, including at the state and local level. This is stuff I knew and questioned in 11th grade civics class. They no longer teach this since the 1980s, relying of a ignorant proletariat who are too stupid and ignorant to realize how they are being manipulated by criminal court rulings based on opinion, rather than he constitution.

Raytri simply is ignorant of our legal system, and apparently has never been taught. It is a planned ignorance by our legal system and government to not educate those on what their REAL rights are, and the con job of the courts and government to deprive you of your rights.

 

Great post and understanding what is going on. Equality ends up being un-equality.

 

Justsaying, didn't you read the posts I provided of the 13th amendment and the definition of "involuntary servitude". Did you bother to read it at all. I DID NOT WRITE IT, and if you read it and emerge out of your ignorance and pay attention, I am 100% correct. It is our constitution AS WRITTEN, our rule book.

 

Very interesting. If this is true then the entire movement is going to crash because it isn't sustainable. Because the movement is having a negative impact on the women it's supposed to help. And not only them but their kids and society. But all I'm saying is women are not victims anymore. They are at least equal if not superior and are treated as such by the law. That's fair.

 

Interesting.

 

I read. I'm not your slave. I have a mind to respond on my own accord thank you very much. I don't need your permission.

 

No, there isn’t. Your failure to understand the Constitution does not mean there is a generalized question about this.

Specifically, the Incorporation Doctrine only incorporates the Bill of Rights, not the entire Constitution.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/incorporation_doctrine

 

What women want is not truly equality, but rather superiority.

 

The application of the law still goes against men. I could tell you my sob story. It would both bore and shock you (no one wants to hear someone else's problems, but in the end you would be surprised at how badly I was screwed).

 

And when you're superior and date inferior humans you will pay. It's always been that way. So they won. What's the problem?

 

Ditto all "minorities".

 

is rage sustainable? in a large enough group it is. it may simply smolder from time to time, but it flares up whenever it is fed. progressivism is built on just such rage and its leaders have become quite adept at fanning the flames whenever they need a little boost in their ratings. why do you think all those women marched around in those adorable little kitty-hats? it wasn't because of decades old accusations or the president's careless aside so many years ago. it was because it was shoved in their face 24/7 by the media lapdogs of the progressive establishment. do you really think this whole me too thing is entirely about women being taken advantage of by powerful men? hell no. women have been using their sexuality to gain advantage for centuries. they really don't have to any more, but it makes things so much easier. now, with an entire "movement" behind, them those same women can come forward and say - "gee, but i really didn't want to". toss a few real predators into the mix and you can validate even the most blatant falsehoods. behind it all is the anti-trump/anti-conservative/ anti-common sense agenda of the progressive establishment. just another stone to throw at the glass houses of the powerful. if a few of their own get caught up in all the excitement, so be it. their media lapdogs can always downplay those few and concentrate on the enemy, whether they are guilty of anything or not.

 

Please stay on topic. This thread is about women, equality, and alimony, and child support. Please talk on that.

 

A large portion of women believe that feminist equality is something extra that just gets added to them due to possessing a vagina, and almost never a true rebalancing of equity in society. Want to find out the extent of it? Just research into polls of whether men should pay for dates in an "equal" society and get ready for all manner of faulty rationalizations of why men should still pay and women should receive free benefit.

The alimony/child support issue is the exact same thing. Of course some men complained about alimony and child support as applied to their specific cases, but few complained about the institutional need for those things in a culture where women generally gave up career advancement to remain SAHM. Now that women can and do get hit with alimony and child support obligations, suddenly those things are unfair as institutions and in need of significant overall reform. NOW, after decades of unfair benefit, they begin to complain ONLY once the unfairness comes to THEIR door. Transparent.

For every bad behavior that men engage in generally, there is an equally bad behavior that women engage in generally. The difference is that bad male behaviors are rightfully excoriated, made illegal, the subject of endless hyperbole and exaggeration. Whereas the bad things women do in current culture are not only not penalized but -glorified- as "empowerment." Some of the worst more female behaviors are a near infinite capacity for self-absorption and rationalization leading to glaring inconsistencies and an ability to favor emotional display over rational, logical thought.

Men are expected to use our big brains to curb whatever base, immoral instincts we may be subject to via our "pea brains," yet women are not, are encouraged to exercise their "pea brains" in favor of their "big brains" at every opportunity. Why? Because people exercising feelings over thinking can be manipulated to buy more and support fake causes politically that benefit the Complex. There's more to it, but that's the meat of it. Women control 80% or more of purchasing power, and the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex needs them running on emotions over thought towards its own benefit.

The Complex runs on controlling and excluding men while at the same time indulging women, their most important voting bloc. So it wouldn't be surprising at all to see massive alimony/child support reform, overdue for 50 years, only now that women are affected by the inequities of it.

 

Well written. And all Ican say is welcome to the big table ladies. This is life. Deal with it. Because to try and change what the FEEL is not fair means they would have to go back in time and open up all those cases where men were done unfair. And then some of those payments would need to be reversed and women would owe money back in payments they didn't deserve. This would include women who are now elderly. So there is no way around life. This is what men have to deal with. Just walk it off.

 

you brought up the sustainability of the feminist movement's more rabid positions. i merely gave my take on the possibility of and reasons for the sustained radicalization of the feminist movement. you can't consider these things inside a vacuum. inside the vacuum the damage caused by these inequities would cause the movement to collapse. it is only by taking into account outside forces that we see how the cult of victim-hood is of such great use to some that they will do all within their power to continue utilizing that force.

 

And more women will get what men get. Jail time, alimony, child support payments, etc. As long as they know what they are up for.

 

and the whining over the unfairness of a woman's lot in life will just get louder and more annoying. despite what the true believers say, there is no end game here. it's always about the accumulation of power and that game never ends. too much is never enough.

 

What women?

Where?

All women?

Why have men been upset about this since forever?

 

DUH, there are plenty of responsible people who don't have kids....and way too many who aren't responsible who do...

 

The OP doesn't seem to have a point, does it ?

 

What women?

Where?

ALL women?

 

Why wouldn't you? You owe your child the best you can do, why make it go without it's other parent helping out????


I think if you needed it a "mere" woman's money would be green enough for you...

 

I think there's more to the real story...and that was 1973......but bitterness stays and colors opinions...


ONE person's experience is NOT everyone's....and some have better lawyers