World’s First Of It’s Kind Surgery Saves Miami Girl’s(*)Life

Hmmmm.

At 17 weeks of pregnancy, we are performing in utero surgeries on babies to remove tumors, but the pro-death crowd around here wants us all to believe "it" is just a clump of cells. Strange how reality doesn't coincide with their "belief" system.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/21/worlds-first-of-its-kind-surgery-saves-miami-girls-life/

 

how in the heck can the parents sign a consent when there is no life on which to perform the surgery? And, since it's not a child, how can a surgical consent form be signed for the "child"? It is after all just a bunch of goo, a fetus/foetus/zygote/clump of cells and something which must be terminated at all costs

I am outraged that this expensive surgery was performed on a worthless clump of cells. They should have just gone to planned parenthood and made a "choice"

I'll be glad when Obamacare is here and surgeries such as this are not approved by the death panels. Woops, I mean the choice panels

 

My instinct reading this isn't to jump to the politics of abortion but to simply appreciate a human story of a happy family and impressive medical expertise. This child seems to be even less than a clump of cells to you, just a tool to use in your political games.

 

So was mine. As always.

I suggest you run around this section more often, I am not the one condoning infanticide and killing babies. Like some of the folks who "like" your comment.

 

No, you are the one falsely accusing others of "condoning infanticide" and "killing babies."

 

there in itself is a problem. if you are to not be attacked in this sub section then you must accept that the child isn't a child.........do you follow me?

It's a zygote, fetus, foetus, bag o cells, pile of goo etc.

So, this surgery should never have happened because there was no life on which to perform surgery.

 

please splain me this

how could the Drs have performed surgery on that which is not alive?

 

That a surgery was performed does not in any way prove that a fetus must be a person at the time. We also perform surgeries on animals. Does not make them persons.

 

Um, I don't think I can honestly answer this absurdity....lol.

What um, what were you trying to say here again? Your comment makes no sense.

I am pretty sure all medical surgeries done in a hospital, are done on people blasphemer. I really don't know what else to tell ya here....lol.

We perform surgeries on animals too, but we don't call the animals anything else then what they are either.

 

hmmm, so for instance, a dog receives surgery. I get that because the dog is alive

with that said, since this is nothing more than a growth, a parasite, a bag of goo, a clump of cells, a zygote, a foetus, a fetus, an inconvenience ........anything but alive then how in the heck should surgery have been allowed?

Are we now performing surgery on bags of cells?

it clearly wasn't a child

the mom and dad could not be treated as the parents of something which isn't alive or isn't human, so how could any of this have happened?

 

Some pro lifers have turned what should be a decent thread into a slanging match against choicers. How nice.

Its a good story because the baby was actually born and is here to enjoy her life, if the operation didn't go ahead she wouldn't be here today.

But according to some, us choicers shouldn't have wanted the surgery to go ahead. We would have preferred the fetus be aborted instead.

 

The point is that people are alive just as animals are. The surgery was performed on a live human fetus which is simply a living unborn person.

 

Mak, the argument presented by some here is that the fetus isn't a living person and that murdering it as a matter of convenience is acceptable. Clearly it is a living person otherwise surgery would not have been performed.

 

I am pro-choice, as long as the choice to carry a baby to term was the mom's then all is good

 

ahhh no

the pro abortion crowd here,you included have made it clear that the "thing" is simply a bunch of cells, a bag of goo, a fetus, a foetus, a zygote, a parasite, an inconvenience but heaven forbid anything but the baby it actually is.

So, in keeping with the spirit of that misguided thought

the "thing" was not alive or a baby so should not have had surgery

since there is no life, the man and woman obviously could not be parents because there is no child

that leaves legal issues as to who can sign permission when there are no parents and there is no life?

so makk, was it a baby which received this surgery or not?

 

I am pro-choice as well

we should give the victim a choice if they wish to be killed or not

 

That isn't true. You wouldn't give anyone a choice.

 

At seventeen weeks of pregnancy, the "thing" is a fetus. It will be a baby when it is born.

No one ever said a fetus was not alive.

It was a fetus. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/baby

 

A fetus is alive. No one ever said it wasn't.

 

Whining. All I hear on this one.

It's always a celebration when a baby is born. Too bad you guys condone killing said baby before they can be celebrated no?

What this story shows Makedde and all others, is that medical technology is getting more advanced and we are able to do surgery on what YOU PEOPLE in all other instances claim to be just a "clump of cells". Which we all really know, is a bold faced lie. This is why none of you have anything to go on here besides whining about how "TheHat turned a story into a political issue!". You say this b/c you can't argue against this with your failed philosophy of "it's not a baby, it's a clump of cells".

There is nothing left for you guys to say on this. Basically, you just got your philosophy shot straight to hell and you don't have anything to say about it because in your heart of hearts you know I am right.

 

sperm and a egg is the begging of our lives, but if the process was aborted shortly after, there would of been no us to be the beginning of


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Once again, public education failed you. This stupid argument, and it is actually totally stupid, that sperm and egg separate, are people. It's time to stop peddling dumbass arguments and deal in reality.

Now, do you have something sane to say here or are you only wired to say stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)?

 

they are separate and then join together, they are the ingredients needed for life, not all become babies, guess your private schooling failed you... did they teach you the world was 6000 years old too?

now can we get past the personal attacks... thanks

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Their belief is no different than the pre-emancipation era belief that black people were just "property", they have no regard for the morality at all as long as their materialistic desires are met.

 

that would be like saying we shoudl not arrest rapists as they are just creating babies, that babies are a gift from god and if god did not want the baby a rape victim would not of been raped

then again, some may believe that

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

what you seem to forget is a pregnant women is not just property, not just a baby making machine, it's her choice to risk her life to take a pregnancy to term, not mine or yours


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