Worst President in the last 50 years - Fair honest poll

Who was the worst president in the lat 50 years?

Obviously, Trump is not included because his Presidency has not yet concluded as he still has at least 2 years left on hist term, possibly another 6 years. He can be fairly evaluated when his term has completed.

Please give solid reasons why you voted for a certain President.

This is a fair and honest poll to replace the biased poll that was started by another forum goer who's obvious motivation was to taint the results and skew the results.

Thanks!

 

Nixon.. but Trump has said.. hold my beer....

Bush Jr would be #2

 

I voted for Barack Obama as the worst President of the last 50 years. It wasn't even close IMO has economic recovery was the worst in Post War Era and his foreign policy was the worst of any President we have ever had. The scandels under Obama are still just coming to light but he is easily my top choice.

 

so you give Bush Jr a pass that created the greatest economic disaster of our lifetimes and the debt is still claiming because of Bush Jr to this day

But yeah, Obama is the bad guy for not cleaning it up good enough after him

I think after the Trump tax cuts for the corps, this country will be going bk in the next 10 to 20 years

 

EXCEPT:

There is ALREADY a poll, right HERE:

__>http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ident-of-the-last-hundred-years.550173/page-5

Where 25 PF Members (in a poll NOT including Trump) entertained everyone with their visceral hatred of Obama.

So?

Why start ANOTHER one?

Feeling rather insecure about Lil' Donnie?

Personally, I find this poll REDUNDANT.

Since there is ALREADY a poll for the RW Obama Haters to throw shade (at Obama) in a RW Circle Joke.

Trump's supporters must've really got their feathers ruffled.

Carry on.

 

Fair, honest poll my ass. Where's the retard???

 

Is it the great economy, or the historically low minority unemployment, or the rising wages, or the increased manufacturing, or that Trump has pardoned minorities, or the revision of the law helping minorities that has you triggered?

 

Yes, now that you included him, rather than 60 percent for Trump, it shot to 75 percent for Obama.

 

When will you get off that failed kick that GW Bush caused the recession? It was a short one per Obama. When will you get the idea that if Obama could do good, he also could do bad. We point out the bad and you do not like it.

Trump did a tax cut that did a lot of good for all of the taxpayers.

 

Once you get an honest poll on the worst Presidents, Obama usually floats to the top. Easy to see why, he is most peoples choice as the very President in American history.

 

Not surprising, Obama takes the lead in honest polling about past Presidents and who was the worst.

 

An honest poll is not done by the very RW partisan PF poll.
This site is 70% or so RW.
But if one is interested in a real poll, here is a ranking of every prez.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

 

and his biased hatred for Obama is only too obviously - notice that he did not offer any evidence to "prove" Obama's economics were worse nor prove that Obama's foreign policy was bad - in fact he forgot that Obama won the Nobel Prize unlike Trump

let's see the self proclaimed fair minded right wingers criticize any of that

 

hey forum Republicans what do you make of this:


http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/us-debt-clock.550001/page-11#post-1070267652

 

worse president - here:

 

Documented civilian deaths from violence
183,030 – 205,514
Total violent deaths including combatants
288,000


https://www.iraqbodycount.org/


Bush succeeded in killing all those civilians - by contrast, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Obama, and Trump combined have not come close. This does NOT include deaths in Afghanistan.

So now, who's worst?

 

1900 dead because of Katrina thanks to Bush_Stupid

funny thing is how some deluded right wingers continue to blame Obama

 

Not to mention his horrendous record on national security. Blood was flowing in the streets of New York and DC 8 months after him and his crack national security team took over. Then they parlayed that into a couple of trillion dollar bloody turd hunts that we’re still paying for. Then after stuffing the pockets of their warprofiteering cronies they left laughing while the economy imploded... No contest, Cheney/Bush take the cake!!! UnlessTrump really screws the pooch he could never get anywhere near those guys....

 

Since the death toll never exceeded 1833, I find it hard to believe that Bush caused all of these deaths. Are you saying Bush caused the hurricane? Now that would be quite a feat.

Quite a feat indeed. lol

How silly and biased.

Make a vote and support your case, just try to act mature and use facts, for a change.

Thanks!

 

LOL check out the dates on Obama. At least get a real poll and some real facts and figures to back up your "argument".

Too funny and biased, to say the least.

Make a vote and support your stance with actual facts.

Thanks!

 

Bush regime scandals:

• Joseph E. Schmitz (R) was nominated by President George W. Bush (R) to be Defense Department Inspector General on June 18, 2001. He resigned on September 9, 2005, in the wake of several allegations by Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), including that he had obstructed the FBI investigation of John A. Shaw.[178][179][180][181]
• Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal (2007) about substandard conditions for wounded soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center including long delays in treatment, rodent infestation and outbreaks of mold resulted in the relief of three senior staff;

1. Francis J. Harvey (R) Secretary of the Army, appointed by G. W. Bush, resigned[182][183][184]
2. Maj. Gen. George Weightman ( ) was fired for failures linked to the scandal[185][186][187][188]
3. Lt. Gen. Kevin C. Kiley (R) appointed by G. W. Bush, was relieved of command resigned for failures linked to the scandal.[189][190]

• Felipe Sixto was appointed by President George W. Bush to be his Special Assistant for Intergovernmental Affairs as well as Duty Director at the Office of Public Liaison. He resigned a few weeks later on March 20, 2008, because of his misuse of grant money from the U.S. Agency for International Development when he had worked for the Center for a Free Cuba.[191] He was sentenced to 30 months in prison for stealing almost $600,000 for personal use.[192]
• Timothy Goeglein, Special Assistant to President Bush, resigned in 2008 when it was discovered that more than twenty of his columns had been plagiarized from an Indiana newspaper.[193]
• Scott Bloch was appointed by President George W. Bush to head the United States Office of Special Counsel. On April 27, 2010, Bloch pleaded guilty to criminal contempt of Congress for "willfully and unlawfully withholding pertinent information from a House committee investigating his decision to have several government computers wiped...."[194] On February 2, Magistrate Judge Deborah A. Robinson ruled that Bloch faces a mandatory sentence of at least one month in prison.[195][196]
• Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney (R), was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in the Plame affair on March 6, 2007. He was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000. The sentence was commuted by George W. Bush on July 1, 2007. The felony remains on Libby's record, though the jail time and fine were commuted.[197][198] President Donald Trump fully pardoned Libby on April 13, 2018.[199][200]
• Alphonso Jackson, the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, resigned while under investigation by the Justice Department for alleged cronyism and favoritism[201]
• Karl Rove, Senior Adviser to President George W. Bush, was investigated by the Office of Special Counsel for "improper political influence over government decision-making", as well as for his involvement in several other scandals such as Lawyergate, Bush White House email controversy and Plame affair. He resigned in April 2007. (See Karl Rove in the George W. Bush administration)[202]
• Richard J. Griffin, the Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security appointed by George W. Bush who made key decisions regarding the department's oversight of private security contractor Blackwater USA, resigned in November 2007, after a critical review by the House Oversight Committee found that his office had failed to adequately supervise private contractors during the Blackwater Baghdad shootings protecting U.S. diplomats in Iraq.

• Bush White House email controversy –
• Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal was a prominent Republican lobbyist with close ties to administration legislators, officials and staff who offered bribes as part of his lobbying efforts. Abramoff was sentenced to 4 years in prison.[239][240] See also Georeg W. Bush Legislative Branch for 11 legislators and staff caught in the investigation. Executive Branch personnel involved include;

1. David Safavian (R) CoS of the GSA (General Services Administration) was convicted of making false statements as part of the Jack Abramoff lobbying and corruption scandal and was sentenced to one year in prison. (2005)[241][242] found guilty of blocking justice and lying,[243] and sentenced to 18 months[244]
2. Roger Stillwell (R) staff in the Department of the Interior, pleaded guilty and received two years suspended sentence.[245]
3. Susan B. Ralston (R) Special Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to Karl Rove, resigned on October 6, 2006, after it became known that she accepted gifts and passed information to her former boss Jack Abramoff.[246]
4. J. Steven Griles (R) Deputy to the Secretary of the Interior pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and was sentenced to 10 months[227]
5. Italia Federici (R) staff to the Secretary of the Interior and President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, pled guilty to tax evasion and obstruction of justice. She was sentenced to four years' probation.[247][248][249]
6. Jared Carpenter (R) Vice President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, was discovered during the Abramoff investigation and pled guilty to income tax evasion. He got 45 days, plus 4 years' probation.[250]
7. Mark Zachares (R) staff in the Department of Labor, bribed by Abramoff, guilty of conspiracy to defraud.[240]
8. Robert E. Coughlin (R) Deputy Chief of Staff of the Criminal Division of the Justice Department, pleaded guilty to conflict of interest after accepting bribes from Jack Abramoff. (200

• Kyle Foggo (R) CIA Executive Director was convicted of honest services fraud in the awarding of a government contract and sentenced to 37 months in federal prison at Pine Knot, Kentucky. On September 29, 2008, Foggo pleaded guilty to one count of the indictment, admitting that while he was the CIA executive director, he acted to steer a CIA contract to the firm of his lifelong friend, Brent R. Wilkes.
• Julie MacDonald (R) Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Department of the Interior, resigned on May 1, 2007, after giving government documents to developers (2007)
• Claude Allen (R) appointed as an advisor by President Bush (R) on Domestic Policy, was arrested for a series of felony thefts in retail stores. He was convicted on one count and resigned soon after.
• Lester Crawford, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, resigned after two months. He pleaded guilty to conflict of interest and received a 3-year suspended sentence and fined $90,000 (2006)
• The 2003 Invasion of Iraq depended on intelligence that Saddam Hussein was developing "weapons of mass destruction" (WMDs) meaning nuclear, chemical and/or biological weapons for offensive use. As revealed by The (British) Downing Street memo "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and the facts were being fixed around the policy" The press called this the "smoking gun". (2005)[
• Yellowcake forgery – Just before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration presented evidence to the UN that Iraq was seeking material (yellowcake uranium) in Africa for making nuclear weapons. Though presented as true, it was later found to be not only dubious, but outright false.

see wiki - there were so many I had to edit it!



By contrast, the number of Obama administration members convicted = ZERO

 

yeah right - more died such as through illness later on but these were not counted -- of course you biased Bush supporters will do anything to defend your hero

now imagine if this happened under Obama

 

Are you saying the death toll was higher than 1833 and Bush caused the hurricane? That is just plain absurd and silly.

Biased? We have all of the Presidents in the last 50 years who have completed their terms. Vote and make an argument as to who is the worst.

Be civil about it.

 

your hero sat back and did NOTHING to stop the terrible things that happened just like your other hero sat back while 4000 Americans died in Puerto Rico


now imagine of this happened under Obama

 

Yeah.

All that you post is TRUE, Correct, and Self-Evident.