Wow, Jen Psaki admits government is flagging Facebook posts for misinformation

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  1. 21Bronco

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    Facebook is going to find they've become a state agent acting on behalf of the federal government to violate first amendment speech.

    It's one thing for Facebook, on its own, to censor (ignoring the Section 230 issue), but quite another for them to flag or delete posts at the request of government.

    She admits "We are flagging problematic posts FOR FACEBOOK" at the 30 second mark.
     
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    Wow, Jen Pasaki admits that the government is flagging posts with disinformation about covid.
    You should be ashamed for taking what she said and turning it into a violation of free speech.
     
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    Guess now it's the Military-Industrial-Social Media Complex....can you even IMAGINE the uproar if this were Trump's press secretary? At any rate let's sit back and enjoy the coming excuses and deflections. :banana:
     
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    Maybe Biden is psychic.... he keeps comparing current events to the "civil war"



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    It is a violation of free speech, depending upon what Facebook does with those "flags". Companies are not allowed to violate your freedom of speech on behalf of the government.

    And what misinformation? I'm old enough to remember them deleting posts about hydroxychloroquine and Wuhan.

    Fauci is a known liar who spreads misinformation.
     
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    Apparently they need to since the right wing can't distinguish fact from fiction?? Like the Covid vaccine makes you magnetic???
     
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    Next they will admit that they are flagging political posts, too.

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    This Fascism.

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    Biden's Fascist Press Secretary admits to a list:

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    It's unbelievable how dumb these folks are.
     
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    I wonder if they are retooling the DEA to be the new vaccine enforcement agency. Maybe they use them to assassinate villainous Presidents in Africa who block life saving vaccines from the reaching citizens. Who knows!? Are they the group being used as an enforcement agency for forcing Facebook and Twitter to censor this stuff?
     
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    If FB is removing post because the Fed Govt is telling/asking them to, then yes is is a huge violation of free speech. It is not illegal to post disinformation and the government has no right to have it removed.

    This is not the power you want your government to have it you have any love of freedom in you at all
     
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    Of course it's very concerning who decides what "disinformation" is.
     
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    To be fair, the real issue is whether the government is putting any type of pressure on private businesses.
    If the business is doing it of its own accord completely voluntarily, that is a different matter.

    (But it is also true that if someone powerful "asks" you to do something, that can imply a subtle threat or reward, so even that can be a little bit concerning)
     
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    Does anyone wonder how much government resources are being used to dredge through all these posts looking for comments to be flagged?

    Even if it is a private company actually choosing to delete them, it is public resources being used to help them do that.
    Still concerning...
     
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    No, it's a free speech issue as well. The government cannot do an end run around the Constitution by outsourcing the violation of civil rights to a private corporation. But yes, the wasted resources are a secondary issue for sure.
     
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    Who in the White House decides what is "disinformation"? I want to know that person's name. Why can't I decide what I want to believe or disbelieve? Prior to 1492 I'm sure most European governments thought Christopher Columbus was putting out "disinformation".
     
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    I disagree
     
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    Then you don't understand US law.
     
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    Not sure why you support fascism. Can you explain?
     
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    You should be ashamed for taking what she said NOT a violation of free speech….. comrade.
     
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    When they decide any criticism of the government is not good for the country and start tagging those you might change your mind
     
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    Align with their narrative, your opinions aside, or they will shut you down.

    Hail Hitler!
     
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    Real fascism and they have precious little to say.
     
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    Does this sound like it violates the Constitution?
    Good - because it does.

    Bantam Books v Sullivan

    (a) The Fourteenth Amendment requires that regulation by the States of obscenity conform to procedures that will ensure against the curtailment of constitutionally protected expression, which is often separated from obscenity only by a dim and uncertain line. Pp. 372 U. S. 65-66.

    (b) Although the Rhode Island Commission is limited to informal sanctions, the record amply demonstrates that it deliberately set about to achieve the suppression of publications deemed "objectionable," and succeeded in its aim. Pp. 372 U. S. 66-67.

    (c) The acts and practices of the members and Executive Secretary of the Commission were performed under color of state law,

    (d) The Commission's practice provides no safeguards whatever against the suppression of nonobscene and constitutionally protected matter, and it is a form of regulation that creates hazards to protected freedoms markedly greater than those that attend reliance upon criminal sanctions, which may be applied only after a determination of obscenity has been made in a criminal trial hedged about with the procedural safeguards of the criminal process. Pp. 372 U. S. 68-70

    (e) What Rhode Island has done, in fact, has been to subject the distribution of publications to a system of prior administrative restraints without any provision for notice and hearing before publications are listed as "objectionable" and without any provision for judicial review of the Commission's determination that such publications are "objectionable." Pp. 372 U. S. 70-72.

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/372/58/
     
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    The first amendment bans government from interfering with free speech. It doesn't include an exception for laundering the interference through the private sector. I don't think he is ashamed. I think he is right. It is the clearest violation of free speech I have seen in a very long time.
     
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    Greenwald may be one of the last true remaining journalist in the thw world.

    He is right to say of you don't find it disturbing what the Biden administration is doing here you are definitionally authoritarian.

     
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    I’ll take - What Would Hitler Say for $1,000 Alex.

    The WH admitted it has a role in online censorship.
     
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