Yes, according to Repub Louie Gohmert, if you support gay rights?

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    You're "like a Nazi".


    Tom Kludt – May 9, 2014, 1:50 PM EDT

    You know who else called people "haters"?

    Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) does, so he took to the House floor on Friday afternoon to offer a Third Reich comparison that was bizarre even for Third Reich comparisons.

    So, who's resembling the Nazis now? It's the gay rights advocates, of course.

    After he said that Christians really "love homosexuals," Gohmert channeled Martin Niemöller while lamenting the persecution of gay marriage opponents.


    So it is amazing that in the name of liberality, in the name of being tolerant, this fascist intolerance has arisen. People that stand up and say, you know, I agree with the majority of Americans, I agree with Moses and Jesus that marriage was a man and a woman, now all of a sudden, people like me are considered haters, hate mongers, evil, which really is exactly what we've seen throughout our history as going back to the days of the Nazi takeover in Europe. What did they do? First, they would call people "haters" and "evil" and build up disdain for those people who held those opinions or religious views or religious heritage. And then the next came, well, those people are so evil and hateful, let's bring every book that they've written or has to do with them and let's start burning the books, because we can't tolerate their intolerance.



    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/louie-gohmert-gay-rights-nazis

    So just so we're clear....unless you oppose gay marraige....you want to round up people who oppose it and put them in camps and kill them with poison gas and then cremate their bodies and use their skin to make lamps.

    So saith the Lou.
     
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    He's a dinosaur. His time has come, and gone.
     
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    More than that....Gohmert is a LOONEY.

    He's the same guy who came up with the theory of "terror babies".....that Latino undocumented immigrants were going to sneak across the border....have babies....and those Latino babies were going to grow up in 20 years and become "Islamic jihadist terrorist".

    You can find that video on YouTube....search "Louie Gohmert Anderson Cooper".

    Cooper feeds Gohmert his own rope and Louie ties the noose, throws it over a limb, puts his head in it, and kicks the chair away himself. :)
     
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    I thought the Nazis killed gay people?
     
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    Why did the Nazis persecute gays, if many nazis were actually gay?
     
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    Reminds me of the Holocaust deniers who claim that many Nazi's were actually Jewish.....
     
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    They were????? Now I am just lost.
     
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    That's alright. Do you know how many of our politicians this past week has called me racist for not backing Obama? You'll find that idiots like to make up things about people when they can't think of anything legitimate to use.
     
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    I don't trust that news site. They have been known to outright lie about news stories and even been duped into thinking satire news is real news.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

    I don't think Hitler was gay, he had several girlfriends in his life and he even had a relationship with his niece at one point. So not gay, but totes into incest apparently.

    It is also a fact that the Nazis persecuted homosexuals.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust

    Oh and this too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Adolf_Hitler
     
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    No, just so we're clear, that's NOT what he said. Why must you lie and misrepresent? Oh yeah, because of the true thing that he actually DID say...to build up hate. What he said (which is true) is that those same tactics, developed for propaganda, are being used today. Didn't say (*)(*)(*)(*) about poison gas or skin lampshades.
     
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    Because the far left cannot be honest on this issue. Let's look at what he actually said.


    So it is amazing that in the name of liberality, in the name of being tolerant, this fascist intolerance has arisen. People that stand up and say, you know, I agree with the majority of Americans, I agree with Moses and Jesus that marriage was a man and a woman, now all of a sudden, people like me are considered haters, hate mongers, evil, which really is exactly what we've seen throughout our history as going back to the days of the Nazi takeover in Europe. What did they do? First, they would call people "haters" and "evil" and build up disdain for those people who held those opinions or religious views or religious heritage. And then the next came, well, those people are so evil and hateful, let's bring every book that they've written or has to do with them and let's start burning the books, because we can't tolerate their intolerance.


    And he is absolutely right. The far left is doing exactly what the Nazis did 70 years ago. They brand anyone who doesn't believe in their religion as hate mongers, evil and homophobes just as the Nazis did to the Jews. Then the Nazis began to outlaw businesses who had Jewish owners just as the Christians who owned bakeries or the professional photographer in New Mexcio and forced laws outlawing their objection to gay marriage or used a liberal judge to enfroce their activism. Now businesses are so afraid of this new Nazi movement they even fire CEOs out of fear of being attacked by the homosexual brownshirts just because someone gave to a political cause which the majority in California supported not once but twice. Even HGTV removed a show where 2 Christians on their own time support traditional marriage. And the few gays like Andrew Sullivan who spoke out against these new Nazi tactics were attacked and chastised for standing up for a man who only gave to a cause personally never showing bias in his role as CEO.

    Deny it all you like liberals. Your gay marriage movement is definitely one Himmler would be proud of.
     
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    The Bible literally says this about homosexuals and homosexuality.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20:13&version=NLT

    This book says that homosexuals should be executed. Why do you think anyone should even pretend to tolerate this?

    Face it your religious book is completely archaic and outdated. Welcome to modern society where we don't stone everyone to death for being different, or for 'sinning'.

    Same with the Qu'ran which also deems homosexuality as a sin, although they're a bit nicer, if the transgressors repent they will be left alone. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm
     
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    Can you name a single Christian group demanding that?

    Can you name a single time in history where any Christian legislator demanded a law be passed in the US to sentence homosexuals to death? Go ahead, love to see this.

    If anything you are proving how Christianity has evolved while your side has devolved.

    Thanks for that.
     
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    Like most people who like to bash the bible, you are pulling those words out of context. Those are the laws of Moses which never applied to anyone but the Jews. Trying to bash Christianity with it is stupid, because NEVER in the history of Christianity, did Christians follow that law, as it was not given to them, but the Jews. Bashing the religion of the Jews, though...I think somebody did that before...
     
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    That's what your Bible says, sorry if it's inconvenient to you but that is what your God wants for gay people. He wants you to kill them. It's not my problem if you're not following what he says or that it's absolutely abhorrent, it's your problem, you're the ones that believe the myths are real and try to use them as a justification for calling homosexuals 'immoral' and trying to deny them their civil rights under our Constitution.
     
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    Please prove this then because as far as I know Jesus made it clear that no letter of the Law should be disregarded. And if you guys don't care about the old testament laws and beliefs then what exactly do you have against homosexuals? Jesus never said a thing about them.

    By the way, no one has to bash the Bible, the Bible does a fine job all it's own making it appear as a sick manual of psycho beliefs. How to keep one's slaves, when to beat your slaves, how many sex slaves you can own, when to kill a rape victim or when to marry her off to her rapist, when to shatter babies against rocks and keep all the virgins for yourselves, etc. Insane.

    It's clearly a book of laws about an ancient people who were trying to keep the peace and keep chaos from reigning all around them. It is also very clear that slavery and war was rampant among these people and so they invented a God or a higher power to decide the rules of slavery and war and women and children. That's all it is, very little of it really applies today or hasn't been said by another religion.
     
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    Jesus made it clear that he changed nothing in regards to the law. As he was mostly speaking to Jews, he told THEM to keep following it (i.e. not change). Likewise, the law of Moses never applied to gentiles. Jesus also didn't change that.

    Paul.

    Again, old Old Testament.
     
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    so you can't name a single Christian in US history who tried to propose a law based on the Bible to kill homosexuals.

    I accept your defeat.

    You have a religion as well based purely on fanatical belief that homosexuals are genetic or natural based off no science whatsoever. Sure you have endless "studies" that have never proven homosexuality to be natrual or genetic which requires your fanatical belief and faith in your religion.

    You are what you accuse Christians of being yet we aren't the ones trying to force laws upon the majority to accept our religion. You are.
     
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    So then the Jews are expected to kill homosexuals and stone everyone who is sinning to death?

    So Paul = Jesus then? You'd think if it was really important Jesus would have said something about it.

    You think all the bad stuff is only in the old testament? You'd be wrong there.

    That's Jesus on slavery, instead of abolishing it like any sane person would have done he tells people how to keep their slaves and how slaves should behave. wtf?
     
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    It's not the US but it is Uganda. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014

    Defeat of what? Your strawman?

    Where have I made this claim?

    Didn't post any studies. You must be confusing me with someone else.

    http://www.brucegourley.com/christiannation/theocracy.htm

    All gay people want to do is marry each other under our secular laws. That and be treated fairly by society. If the religious would stop shouting about who they think is immoral all the time and start following one of those actual good things Jesus said, "Love thy neighbor - AND love thy enemies." then maybe we'd have more peace between these two groups.
     
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    Apparantly.



    Didn't say that Paul=Jesus, but Paul wrote a huge part of the NT, and that is where the passages on homosexuality are.

    Maybe he did. John 21:25 "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written." Obviously, only some of his words and deeds made the cut due to space restrictions, so why waste time reiterating what everyone already considered to be a given?

    Oh, yeah. Incite a Spartacus-style revolution and get everyone killed. Brilliant.
     
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    That's messed up. Why would Jesus want that?



    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+1:8-11&version=NASB

    This is what Paul says on homosexuality in the Bible. What Law is he talking about if not the Law of the OT?

    Considering that, I sincerely stand by what I said, nobody should even have to pretend that they respect Christians beliefs that homosexuals are immoral and should be executed for it.

    Ok. So how do we know how to treat 'homosexuals' without knowing what he 'did'?

    I thought Jesus was God, surely he would have said something about slavery in the past as well? But he never condemns it, neither new testament nor old. Clearly owning slaves is an acceptable and moral principle as per the Bible.
     
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    Because Jesus was not going to contradict the law, as he stated.

    Yes, he was talking about OT law, and it is but one passage by him on homosexuality. The verse, taken as a whole, just states an obvious truth: that the law is made for the unrighteous, because the righteous don't need the law to tell them such things. The righteous already know not to murder, be homosexual, etc., and have no inclination to do those things.


    I just told you, other parts of the bible address it. Jesus was not the only prophet.


    He did have something to say about it. You quoted verses about it earlier. Yep, perfectly moral, as long as you follow the instructions Jesus and Paul gave regarding their treatment.
     
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    So OT Law does apply to Christians. I seriously do not understand why you said otherwise earlier.

    So OT Law does apply to Christians then since Paul is speaking about it in reference to homosexuality. That's the only info we have on Paul's/Jesus'/God's views on homosexuality soooo would it not equate that this is what Christians truly believe? That homosexuals must be executed for their sins?

    I thought Jesus was God.

    Do you agree with this? That it is moral to keep slaves so long as you follow Jesus way of treating them?
     

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