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  1. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Google names of voters suppressed in Georgia with Stacey Abrams and you'll get pages of complaints.
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    Nov 19, 2019 · With Democrats set to debate in Atlanta, former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams and her crusade against voter ...



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    Feb 5, 2020 · Stacey Abrams on voting rights, the Census, and focusing on the ... have the title of governor, what did I see as critical to the progress of ...
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Try some real news media sometime. your propaganda machine doesn't mention 90% of it and the rest it bends out of all reality.
    Georgia election fight shows that black voter suppression, a southern tradition ...
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    Where did I post a number? I think you've confused me with another user. I made no such specific claim.
     
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    Yes under this administration and the previous one. Every turn someone gets elected you partisan lunatics think it's the end of times.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None of the 107,000 complained to law enforcement that they showed up at polls and were not allowed to vote because their names had been purged ??? Nothing in the news ??? No ACLU press releases ???

    Why is that ???
     
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    And you have nothing. Why don’t you post quotes with the names and circumstances ???
     
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    And again no names and circumstances. Just baseless claims with no facts.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What then is the number you claim ???
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    That is a silly argument LOL
     
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    Here you go 313000 names, wake up and smell the coffee.
    SEARCH THE VOTER LIST FOR YOUR NAME

    STEP 1: Open the list at this link http://bit.ly/InactiveVoters

    STEP 2: Wait for the list to load. Watch the progress bar, top right.

    STEP 3: Start search with the Command + F

    STEP 4: Enter your last name in the search box and look through records for your full name
     
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    Because it's total bullshit. No one in America that is eligible that shows up at the correct polling place is denied a vote.
     
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    Funny how black areas in red states have mile long lines to vote LOL.
    SEARCH THE VOTER LIST FOR YOUR NAME

    STEP 1: Open the list at this link http://bit.ly/InactiveVoters

    STEP 2: Wait for the list to load. Watch the progress bar, top right.

    STEP 3: Start search with the Command + F

    STEP 4: Enter your last name in the search box and look through records for your full name

    this is all about Stacey Abrams and how she was beaten by the attorney general of Georgia who was in charge of the voter rolls and decided to throw 307,000 people off. Mainly minorities. Try a real news media sometime.
     
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    Maybe if you'd expand your knowledge instead living the lie of willingly being hoodwinked by the fake newz media you'd know the following ...

    Here's a secret ... you do NOT have to be pre-registered to vote.

    One more time: As long as you are eligible and show up at the correct polling place you WILL be allowed to vote. IT'S. THE. LAW.


    In elections in the United States, a provisional ballot is used to record a vote when there are questions about a given voter's eligibility that must be resolved before the vote can count. The federal Help America Vote Act of 2002 guarantees that, in most states, the voter can cast a provisional ballot if the voter states that he or she is entitled to vote.[1]

    Some of the most common reasons to cast a provisional ballot include:

    • The voter's name does not appear on the electoral roll for the given precinct (polling place), because the voter is not registered to vote or is registered to vote elsewhere
    • The voter's eligibility cannot be established or has been challenged
    • The voter lacks a photo identification document (in jurisdictions that require one)
    • The voter requested to vote by absentee ballot but claims to have not received, or not cast, the absentee ballot
    • The voter's registration contains inaccurate or outdated information such as the wrong address or a misspelled name
    • In a closed primary (limited to members of a political party), the voter's party registration is listed incorrectly[1]
    Whether a provisional ballot is counted is contingent upon the verification of that voter's eligibility, which may involve local election officials reviewing government records or asking the voter for more information, such as a photo identification not presented at the polling place or proof of residence.[1] Each state may set its own timing rules for when these issues must be resolved. Provisional ballots therefore cannot usually be counted until after the day of the election.[1]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot
     
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    There are no names. The voter suppression meme is a lie. There are no voters who have been prevented from voting due to trimming the voter rolls to cut back on the dead vote.
     
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    313,000 registered voters who were denied the right to vote ?? That's what you are claiming ??
     
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    Exactly. The entire voter suppression meme is a lie.
     
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    The story the left is pushing in GA is that there was voter suppression because there are laws that have deadlines to register to vote...like ever state. The story they are pushing is that people wanted to vote who had not registered by the deadline. It’s quite silly
     
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    And there are no voters who claim they were denied their vote. Just as there are no voters who claim the Georgia voter ID law resulted in denial of their right to vote. Same in Indiana. The entire voter suppression meme is a lie.
     
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    Why do you think any of us have access to the actual "names"? Isn't that private information? If you want names you'll have to locate those who received purge notices. It's not publicly available.

    The fact that voters are purged is not in dispute. Judges have even ruled over it, and Fair Fight Action has been at the forefront in efforts to reduce voter suppression & fraud.

    BTW...In Dec. 2019 Georgia election officials purged 309,000 voter registrations from its rolls.
     
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    All this and no one complained that they were not allowed to vote because their name had been purged. The entire voter suppression meme is a lie. There are no actual persons whose votes have been denied.

    You have nothing. There is nothing except the bold faced lie from the Banana Republic Party.
     
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    Go read what it's based on. Do your homework.

    What's moronic is that most Americans don't understand that Bernie's plan will put MORE money into their pockets (except for the wealthy). With free healthcare, free education, lower utilities (yes, Bernie wants to do that too), affordable housing, and expanded social programs & benefits (including universal childcare), then people will have MORE money in their pockets, which will give them MORE spending power, and which will STIMULATE the economy. Common sense dude.

    Besides, I thought doing what's best for the people should be the prime goal of anyone seeking public office. But you're basically admitting that Trump will run on a platform of lies (as expected) just to get re-elected (as he did during his first campaign). Bernie's not willing to do that. What you see is what you get with Bernie. He's not into rhetoric, lying, or offending people. He's 100% about policy & getting things done! Look at his history & work ethic. He began as an activist even in high school.

    But do I believe Bernie will win on his current platform? No. And this is why:

    Other than the elections being rigged to favor pro-establishment/pro-corporation candidates (as usual), Bernie won't win because he's honest about taxation & the need for expanding social programs. He is also too progressive for the likes of American troglodyte voters. He's also "Enemy No. 1" of both domestic & international elites who stand to lose much (monetarily, politically, and strategically) if Bernie is elected...and, a threat to the pocketbooks of congressional corporate shills. Americans are also so brainwashed & misinformed that they're utterly incapable of even assessing what's best for themselves. They'll vote for a candidate who wants a border wall, even though that candidate will give a green light to corporations to pollute the very habitat they live in. The people would rather have a useless wall to keep out the "evil" illegals than to have clean water, clean air, healthy food, and a mass conversion to clean energy! lol

    On the other hand, Trump will win because he'll do what he always does --- lie, cheat, make false promises, and feed off the fears, anger & suffering of the people. He'll fabricate various fake "enemies" and incite the easily triggered, dumbed down masses to hate them...then promise to protect them from the fake "threat." He'll tell them everything they want to hear...on a 2nd grade level. He'll continue the endless wars. He'll stack govt seats with even more top corporate officers & shills. He'll also promise to cut taxes for the working class but will instead continue cutting taxes for the rich. Under Trump, people will be taxed more to make up for the tax cuts on the wealthy, to pay for continued corporate subsidies/tax cuts/bailouts, to pay the increasing healthcare costs incurred by employers, to pay for greater defense spending (and endless wars), and much more. He'll also steal from the people by cutting social benefits & programs.

    Basically, Trump will soak the working class to enrich the wealthy class. But why would that surprise you? It's been his MO from day one. Under Trump the people will become poorer, sicker, more divided, and more miserable...and this makes for an increasingly dangerous/volatile nation to live in.

    BTW...Bernie's medicare for all plan will save taxpayers $450 billion/year by ending the profiteering by insurance & drug companies, and wasteful administrative costs...and save 68,000 lives annually.

    That would be awesome, but my girlfriend doesn't have the same wanderlust that I do. Still, living overseas can mean a far better life than in the U.S. Hundreds of thousands of expats have moved overseas because of reduced cost of living (housing, food, utilities, transportation, etc.), free/cheaper healthcare, safety/lower crime rate, cleaner water/air/food, freedom from govt micromanaging their lives, greater sense of community/social interaction, more accessibility to recreation & nature, simpler life, etc. There is even a thing call "medical tourism" where people travel to other nations to get cheaper (but equally good) medical treatments.

    Interestingly, but unfortunately, America is the only nation that taxes its citizens even if they move overseas.
     
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    How would you know if someone did complain? Did you even check?
     
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    What are Bernie's proposed rates? On what annual income + healthcare costs? Do you know?

    The working class will end up with MORE money in their bank. The wealthy will pay the largest percentage of taxes, including substantially higher estate taxes (as they should).

    And tell me, under Trump how are we supposed to pay or make up for his $750 billion defense budget...increased corporate tax cuts, bailouts, subsidies...reduced revenue from tax cuts on the wealthy...or fix starvation wages, increasing healthcare costs, higher cost of living, inflation, homelessness, and a $1 trillion federal deficit...all the while cutting social benefits & programs?
     
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    You cannot (nor can anyone) produce the name of even one person. The suppression meme is a lie.
     

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