Zimmerman Trial (Thurs July 11) ~ Continued MOD ALERT

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  1. LivingNDixie

    LivingNDixie New Member

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    Is there footage of this?
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Yes but how did Zimmy reach for his gun, unholster it, aim and fire if Martin had him pinned up to the armpits ... Zimmy has given two or three versions of how he did it ... each one more defying of common sense than the next.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    I'm hearing some of the legal experts advise any law students to watch this as it will probably be used as a future classroom exercise.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is mandatory to be included only for murder 1. When West said it was optional, he was right. When the judge it wasn't was because the prosecution asked for it and she had no choice but to include it without any evidence it would not possibly apply, unlike the m3 with child abuse charge.
     
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    Strange i could have sworn it was testified that he was trying to slide.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because fights are fluid like the expert witness testified to. It it was as static as you want to believe then they would still be in stasis.
     
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    No. . .Trayvon had a long life in front of him. . .and there is STILL no proof that Trayvon was in anyway different from hundreds of thousands teenagers all over the US. . .
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    I bet most of the Zimbots are favoring the new lenient approach to marijuana. . .but NOT for TRAYVON. . .right?

    And I bet most of the Zimbots would have had a fit if they had been able to tell that Trayvon was on amphetamines. . .LIKE ZIMMERMAN WAS!

    Some people face karma. . .other just face IDIOTS COWARDS, who have beet juice in their vein instead of blood.

    Zimmerman will face his Karma. . .sooner or later!
     
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    Someone in the courtroom.
     
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    Falena Cherry Bomb Staff Member Past Donor

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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Its a summary of the sides case based on the evidence and where the prosecution is suppose to bring it all together in a clear and concise story of the events. A "this is exactly how it happened " and beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Guess no one told the prosecution.
     
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    Ok, not that it matters much. It's listed here on the Florida Supreme Court site as mandatory for murder 2:

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6d5anNKkOKLwwjQTg&sig2=Nyvrdzj2flW79BFDE-BrAw
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    So according to you ... Martin watched in horror as Zimmy screamed pulled his weapon and shot 'em to death.
     
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    Glad to see you are admitting (or almost) that Zimmerman fired his gun when he was NO LONGER being threatened. . .when he had the upper hand.

    That is what I have always believed. . .that when Zimmerman said that, AFTER the shot, Martin sat up, raised his hands, and said "you got me," he told the truth. . .with ONLY ONE SMALL DIFFERENCE: This didn't happen AFTER he fired the shot. . .it happened BEFORE he fired the shot. . .and that means he killed Martin in cold blood!
     
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    No evidence.
     
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    Common sense is that he got it, that is all that matters. The prosecution has nothing to refute his claim other than conjecture.
     
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    No where does Zimmerman state that Martin's knees where up to his armpits at the time he fired the shot. He specifically said that he pushed away from Martin after Martin mounted him.
     
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    Quick !!! Drive down to Sanford County Court House !!!! You can snag Bernie on his way in tomorrow AM !!

    You can turn him around from looking like a complete jackass to looking like a ............ well ......... an EVEN BIGGER JACKASS !!

    The case was a farce from day one.
     
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    I thought the dummy told the truth.
     
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    Those are just the lesser offenses that can be included unless you think vehicular manslaughter is a required offense. Since manslaughter is a lesser offense in M2, the prosecution has to ask for it and that is exactly what they did today. In a capital offense (which includes the death penalty which would be murder 1) it is automatically included.

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    Actually Rionda lied today.
     
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    Goes to all the versions Zimmy told I was talking about.
     
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    Similar accounts no reasonable person would expect someone going through such an assault to have a perfect memory of the events. His story was consistant to the investigators THAT is the testimony that is what true jury should consider.
     
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    Both you and Bernie are following a classic law axiom. When you have the law on your side pound the law. When you have the facts on your side pound the facts. When you don't have either pound the table.

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    He hasn't given any different versions. So far the only side that is giving different versions is the prosecution.
     
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    Coming from you. . .I will take it to its worthy consideration. :wink:
     
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    The table there has Category I and Category II lesser offenses. Category I is required and Category II is optional. Category I has Manslaughter for both Murder 1 and 2. Vehicular Homicide is in Category II for Murder 2, so that is not a required offense. I'm not a lawyer in Florida so I'm sure what you observed is correct, maybe the table is outdated or was changed due to case law.
     
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    Hallucinating again eh? If you think you can link to where I said what you claim, then please do so.

    The shouting stopped after the shot because the threat was neutralized. Even the prosecution failed miserably with the expert witness to try and prove your erroneous scenario.
     
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