Wake up Obama lovers

You're not going to cry are you, it's just an Election, you'll get another change ... some day.

 

Oh I know it,thats just for starters.

 

Yes, Obama has lied and kept up the status quo. Ron Fail is just another republican with a little bit of a spin on how he markets himself, but he would maintain the status quo as well. Wake up people. Voting for Democrats AND Republicans is a major failure. It doesn't matter if it's Clinton or Bush or Obama or Romney or Paul. Dems and Republicans will both continue to fail us.

 

people really should look at this short video here.Romney is the same.supports Israel so nothing will change with him in office that sfor sure.

 

What time is recess at your kindergarten school?

 

what day will it be when your not in denial and afraid of the truth about governemtn corruption and can only fling childish posts like this when you have no argument?

 

Ya know, I am a liberal and I am around liberals all the time. And I never heard ANY of them say anything remotely close to that. And I'd bet you've never heard them say it either.

Are we just making crap up now?

 

You voted for Obama to prove that you aren't racist. Now vote for Romney to prove that you aren't stupid.

[video=youtube;a4nvhAZ0vr0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4nvhAZ0vr0[/video]

 

Lol. Voting for Romney as a replacement for Obama is the definition of stupid. They are clones, despite the fact that Romney is trying (and, apparently, succeeding in) to pass himself of as far-right.

 

amen to that.Gives standing ovation.they are both puppets of the zionest also and part of theeir new world order agenda.not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing will change with Romney in.

 

Like any intelligent and moral person, I voted for Obama, and obviously I have zero regrets about it. What sort of brain damage would get someone thinking I should have regrets?

Has Obama lied? Sure. All politicians lie. But Obama lies less than the average politician, certainly less than Bush or Clinton. 90% of what the cranks claim are lies are actually the cranks themselves lying about Obama. I don't have some idiot utopian hope that the perfectly honest candidate exists. After all, liberalism is the direct oppositie of utopianism, and instead concerns itself with practicality, with doing what works. Obama represented the best possible outcome for the situation that was presented to us, so a vote for Obama was the obvious choice.

Utopians, the ODS-afflicted and conspiracy loons will have trouble understanding such a simple point, being that it interferes with their primal emotional desire to hate. Whatever. Let 'em rage on a message board. At least that keeps them off the street.

 

May I ask what Obama has done that would make you want to vote for him????????

 

Hold up. You screwed yourself at the very beginning. There's nothing "intelligent" or "moral" about voting for someone. How you get TO that decision is a matter of intelligence and morals, yes. But not necessarily your choice (unless it's like Hitler or something).

And quite frankly, if you're still voting for him now, your intelligence and morals would have made you vote Bush, McCain, and Romney - because skin colour, name, and party are the only differences.

 

When you make a statement like that, it's tough to take you seriously.

Let's take one example. According to you, there's no significant difference between Bush and Gore. That's crazy. Al Gore would not have invaded Iraq and gotten a few hundred thousand people killed. To most people, that is a very significant difference. And that election was close enough that "they're all the same!" crowd tipped the balance and put Bush in office. But hey, so what if they helped start the chain of disaster that killed a couple hundred thousand people? Obviously, their sense of moral purity is the priority here, and that has to take precedence over any real world catastrophe.

In the real world, morality is determined by both intentions and results. There are some things that good intentions can't excuse.

 

Yeah, well, America today doesn't generally like facts that disrupt their nonsense allegiance to bull(*)(*)(*)(*) parties.

And you know this...how? Because he said so?

So basically, you can't address what I actually said, so you're going to go back 12 years ago.

I agree. So what about your intelligence and "morality" putting a guy in office that not only DIDN'T stop Bush's murderous Iraq and Afghan wars (like he promised), but proceeded to STEP UP those very same wars, and then start NEW ones that killed MORE innocent people, not to mention stepping up the drone strikes in Pakistan that murder and maim even more innocents.

The President has just as much blood on his hands as Bush did, McCain would have, and Romney will.

 

this post is as ignorant as the posts of people here that say they voted for Bush TWICE and would do so again in a heartbeat.You obviously have not watched the video.watch that video and unless you are too arrogant to admit you screwed up like some others on here have who all have failed to debunk this video,you will do the matute thig and acknowledge he is just as much corrupt and evil as Bush. that video I posted at the beginning of this thread that you click on and wacth has never been debunked.

 

I hope that part about voting for Romney to prove you are no stupid is a joke? Im wondering about that sense it says NOTHING derogatory about that other evil monster Romney in that video.

Only an idiot would vote for EITHER one of those zionests puppets.a true american would vote for Ron Paul.


Lol. Voting for Romney as a replacement for Obama is the definition of stupid. They are clones, despite the fact that Romney is trying (and, apparently, succeeding in) to pass himself of as far-right.

amen to that.Like I said,voting for EITHER one of those evil monsters is being an idiot.

 

You took him to school and handed his rear end to him on a platter.

Obviously he has not watched the video.I was about to mention that part of the drone attacks as well and how he esculated the killings and what Bush got started but I see you already beat me to the punch.

Yeah he obviously isnt aware of the FACTS that mass murderer O Bummer ordered more drone attacks in just his first TWO years in office murdering more women and children than fellow mass murderer Bushwacker did in his entire 8 years in office.and he says he was intelligent voting for Obama? comedy Gold.He should start a comedy club.

 

Sorry, I'm not required to watch a 2-hour video simply because you're too lazy to state your points yourself. No one is ever obligated to respond to avalanche o 'crap tactics. You know, that thing where some idiot cut-and-pastes some massive data dump of stupid lies, or tells you to watch a long video of stupid lies, and then demands you refute it all, point-by-point. Never mind that it all has been refuted before, and said idiot simply ignored his crap getting torn to pieces and repeated it again. He demands that you spend 6 hours refuting the debunked material it took him 10 seconds to copy, and he'll declare victory if you don't.

Here's an idea. Act like a liberal, and back up your claims. Not by whimpering "watch my 2-hour video!", but by stating the points yourself. IN YOUR OWN WORDS (no cut-and-paste parroting allowed), give us a few high points you'd like to discuss. If you're not a mindless foxtard, that should be easy for you. If you are unable to perform such a simple and reasonable task, we'll understand why.

 

It amuses me when the profoundly ideologically blinded actually think they're not ideologically blinded. You're spouting the fallacy that only the two major parties can bring about "nonsense allegiance." Your herd may be smaller, but it bleats even louder than the two big herds.

Dear lord, to what idiot partisan extremes do you plan to take your "They're all the same!" lunacy?

Al Gore was not a neocon, and would not have made up a campaign of lies to justify attacking Iraq. It's kind of funny, how your emotional attachment to this discredited mantra is driving you to say these batsheet crazy things.

So basically, after I ripped apart what you actually said, you're trying to change the topic and running for the hills.

The topic is your stupid and immoral "they're all the same" libertarian partisan dogma, and the harm that it causes in the real world. I can see why you don't want to discuss that, as facing the consequences of your screwups would not be conducive to you sleeping well.

No need for that. If you'd like, we can go over many modern examples of the screwups of the Republicans you helped put into office. But hey, since you declared your morals were pure, I guess none of that matters.

Are we at war with Iran? A McCain administration would have been far, far bloodier. Therefore, my vote for Obama reduced the bloodshed and was the correct moral choice.

If enough people had acted like you, McCain would be in office, and the body count would be way higher. And had that happened, you would have stuck your nose in the air and declared "Not my responsibility! I didn't vote for him!". Yeah, all you did was fail to oppose evil, because you might have to dirty your hands to do so. I reject such an immoral and cowardly philosophy. When the barbarians are at the gates, one needs morally imperfect warriors, not high-minded priests giving lectures.

 

I don't have a herd, actually, but what do you THINK my herd is?

lol. Ad hominem. The classic mark of someone who can't actually prove what they say.

Look, I get where you're coming from. I didn't vote for the President in 2008 (partially because I couldn't vote...heh), but after he was elected, I gave him a chance. I actually believed him when he said he was going to turn us around from eight years of Texas' village idiot.

But he didn't. So why should I trust anyone just based on what they *say* they will do?

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I'm sorry, can you not see the avatar? Maybe the KARL MARX quote in my signature? The constant places on this forum where I have directly stated I'm a socialist? But you call me a LIBERTARIAN?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

*wipes tear* Oh man...that was great...you really had me going there. I really thought you ACTUALLY think I'm a liberta-

Wait, you weren't joking?

I have never voted Republican in my life, and I probably never will.

Not yet.

*shrug* Maybe. We just don't know, do we?

You're right, I didn't do as I should have. I admit, I supported McCain, and I never should have. I've changed a lot since then though, and one of those changes allows me to see clearly. And what I see is that the President is no opposition to evil. How can he possibly be? What did Bush do?

Bush:
1) Illegally invaded two sovereign nations and overthrew their dictators, then kept us bound to the countries for the rest of his term.
2) Used the bully pulpit to threaten other nations into submission.
3) Illegally murdered and detained American citizens without trial purely on the basis of "suspicion."
4) Started drone warfare.

Obama:
1) Ensured our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan (the countries from Bush's number 1) would last well beyond his term, even if he gets a second.
2) Illegally invaded Libya and overthrew its dictator.
3) Using America's bully pulpit to force a sovereign nation from its RIGHT to superior weaponry and self-determination.
4) Threatening to do the same to Syria and Iran as he did to Libya and Bush did to Iraq and Afghanistan.
5) Continued the detainment and torture of American citizens purely on "suspicion" without a trial.
6) Not only didn't stop drone warfare, but made it WORSE.

Look at this child. This innocent, innocent little girl.



It wasn't President Bush's administration that hurt little Shakira. It was Obama's. Your alleged resistance to evil.

Why is it okay when one murderer goes on a rampage, but not when the other one does?

 

Pot. Kettle. Black. If you're going to be free with the insults, learn not to complain about getting them back.

Hey, the extreme left and extreme right can be very difficult to distinguish. Socialists are rare, while libertarians are common. When I see the "both sides are the same!" fallacy trotted out, I assume libertarian, because that's their usual schtick.

Doesn't change the point, that sometimes the moral course is taking the lesser of two evils, and the immoral course is letting the greater evil prevail because you didn't want to get your hands dirty. Your emotionalism here doesn't change that. No one said Obama was a great guy, so your attacks on that point are red herrings. The point is he's a lot better than the alternatives.

 

And my point is that that is a crock. Already he's done worse than Bush on foreign policy. McCain is a crazy, senile old man, but unless President Obama loses in Nov., I don't see us doing anything different. We'll still probably end up in Iran and Syria, and probably Pakistan after that.

 

Translation-I am afraid of the truth and only see what I want to see,close minded and wont look at something that proves Obama is an evil bastard.

 

Better than the alternatives? thats the most moronic lie of the century. Obama is an evil bastard no different than Bush and has actually surpassed Bush as a mass murderer continuing his policys with drone attacks in afghanistan killing women and children,more attacks aginst them in just his first two years in office than Bush did his entire term than and ron paul is the only one that believes in the constituion and is anti war and yet he is telling us this idiotic B.S that Obama is better? .comedy gold at its best.He should start a comedy club. even that other evil monster Romney cant be as bad as O bummer.lol.