~ MOD ALERT ~ Iran's response to Israel's latest threats

I most certainly speak the truth, I have from the onset and I will continue to do so. Laws otherwise not ratified as Treaties, often are not done so due to American geopolitical interests. But most of those treaties, whether they're signed or not doesn't constitute a threat to global security. Let's take the U.N Sea treaty that you referenced to. We'd like the National Authority to at least govern our own waters in accordance to our laws, not the U.N's.

But in our choice to engage in this manner, we're not threatening the world community. In much the same way that the American Public despise the U.N gun grabbing attempt and we reiterated that the treaty must(and probably wouldn't) be passed in the Senate. If the Senate even dared to attempt this deed, then who knows if the American Public finally takes charge of its own political destiny.

However, to quote President Obama, the CW has been signed ever since the 20's, and from a government and a people who dare to cry out "Never Again", it can only be seen as the greatest disgrace and dishonor not to sign it.

The difference between the P5+1 and Israel is precisely that: We've signed these treaties, we've destroyed our weapons and we have fulfilled our obligations.

Israel, the perpetual World Child has been pampered in the sense that she's been allowed to engage in the World Community while dismissing the moral principle which holds this community together in the first place. You make the pathetic attempt to say that as a Nationalist, a supposed hypocritical view would make me an "Anti-Semite".

But there's no hypocrisy, as I said in that last post you quoted, the greatest hypocrisy comes from a democracy that applies militaristic force inside its own borders, massacres its own minorities and hides behind the "terrorist" claim.

There's only INTL. Honor, obligations and a sense of dignity. The Jewish said "never again", I need remind them that the war started because Hitler couldn't trust the League of Nations.

If Israel cannot sign these ancient treaties, then how can we view Israel as an ally in the slightest? If the U.N as constructed cannot uphold INTL. Law, then what point is there in remaining a member? Israel has a historical, racial and spiritual reason to further join this community, her refusal is of the utmost arrogance and contempt for humanity.

 

Well, he converted to Christianity, not for religious reasons really.

He stated that having been brought up as a Jew, that they teach injustice through Judaism. Which we can clearly see is true, with our own eyes.

 

What friendly neighbor ? Iran ?

 

Here we have a country with a clandestine nuclear weapons program and several nuclear WMDs, that has a history of aggression towards it's neighbours, threatening to attack yet another country, that has no nuclear weapons program, isn't threatening to attack anyone, and that does not have a history of aggression.

In this regard, Iran stands for truth, justice and peace, while Israel stands for warmongering and lies.

It's not hard to see how religious folks in the middle east might perceive this as a battle between good and evil. And being religious people, the Iranians should not, and will not, acquiesce to the subterfuge of the warmongering Zionist state.

Regardless of religion, if you believe in truth, justice and peace, then you stand up for it. Which is precisely what Iran is doing.

 

[video=youtube;muXcAW9aPe8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muXcAW9aPe8[/video]

[video=youtube;H1kVw6qZLK0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kVw6qZLK0[/video]

 

He has not done anything to show he is good as far as I know. Please tell us his great deeds Jack.

That you state that he is a good man without any substantiation? I don't think they even know you just said this.

I think they are happy Assad is still in power as the border will now remain peaceful rather than having to contend with a twenty five milion person Islamic radical loose alliance of Jihadists.

Well, if you consider Iran being in violation of the NPT and a few Chapter seven UNSC Resolution a 'right thing' then I'm sure they are concerned. As for being 'angry,' a government has no emotion Jack, they just do what they have to do without emotion.

If they are being laughed at then why do you hate them so much? I mean, somebody you think is funny is liked.

 

I watched the first minute or so of the first video, but as the presenter hadn't actually made any point by then, I gave up.

I then watched the first few seconds of the second video, until I realised the argument is directed at people who think Israel has no right to exist. Whereas as far as I am concerned, Israel has as much right to exist as any other country does, including of course Palestine.

So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but I suggest trying to use your own words to say whatever it is you're trying to say.

 

The "sanctions" on Iran have no legitimacy and came at the behest of organised Jewry.

I would sooner restore full relations with Iran and impose global sanctions on Israel.

Much more merited.

 

Well Jack, you certianly have made us laugh today. Now you believe the Jews of the world run the UN.

You Jack? You actually wouldn't want to have full relations with Israel rather than Iran?

Wow. At least things never change much.

 

How Iran will play the West on nukes

By Amir TaheriOctober 13, 2013 | 10:58pm


http://nypost.com/2013/10/13/how-iran-will-play-the-west-on-nukes/

 

WHAT? Iran’s centuries old policy of non-aggression ??? Lol REALLY??? ~ In my opinion Khodadad Seifi, must have a kindergarten education, no more. A K1 grad lol! Ok, Maybe a more realistic evaluation of Seifis dumb claims is that he is puppet employed by the UN primarily for his Israel hating (read as Anti-Semitic) agenda. Why else would a deputy ambassador (was probably an ex SS man) to Iran's U.N. mission be that ignorant of history? IMO he should be jailed or at the very least fired for lying. Of course he will probably be given a pat on the back by the stupes of the so called world court and and officials and a metal by the UN. I am sure he will be given a thumbs up by PC world opinion! Why am I making those rude and crude, but true comments? Read on;

READ MORE? I stopped reading the ignorance (of the web site) right there! it’s a waste of time, if I want to read lies about Isreal I will simply read a PF Usual Suspects non validated non sourced drivel. Really this kind of thing enrages me, well if it didn’t scare the mean right out of me. If someone so grossly ignorant of history as the relevant authors of the article and the officials IN the article why read more of the same anti-Semitic (there is a reason Israel is called the JEWISH STATE) tripe? And the suspects wonder why I am so animated when it comes to ignorance of history! Anyway I offer the following examples/evidence of Iran‘s (old name =Persia) aggression and involvement in war going back not centuries, rather we have to go back a little more (or less) than a hundred years ! ;


Persian Revolution -(1921)-

Arab Rebellion in Khuzistan -(1932)

Kurdish Rebellion -(1941-1944)

Azeri Rebellion -(1945)

Kurdish Mahabad Rebellion -(1946)-

Anti-Mossadeq Coup -(1953)-

Iran-Iraq Border Battles -(1969-1970)-

Kurdish Rebellion -(1970-1980)--

Iranian Seizure of Gulf Islands -(1970-1980)--

Dhofar War-(1973-1975)

Islamic Revolution in Iran -(1979-1980)

U.S.-Iran Hostage Crisis--(1979-1981)


The First Persian Gulf War (also known as the Iran-Iraq War)—(1980-198 -
The Tanker War -(1984-198--

Iran's Proxy War with Israel -(1980s-Present)--Iran openly supports and arms Israel's enemies, Syria, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Israel and the United States consider Iran to be a party to the warfare waged by Hamas, Hezbollah, and the tensions with Syria.

PEJAK Kurdish Rebellion -(1998-Present)

Jundallah Sunni Rebellion -(2003-Present)

2009 Presidential Election Protests and Violence---(2009) York: Harper & Row, 1970.

Iranians shell anti-Iranian Kurdish PEJAK guerrillas in Kurdistan region-Iraq--May 23,2007, by KurdNet….

IRANS POLICY OF NON AGGRESSION?????

BS!!!!!~

reva

 

Generally, people choose to have enemies because it gives them an excuse to dislike people. Israel is different though, in that it needs to have enemies so that it can apply such to Guilt Complex in order to collect free tax dollars from the Americans. Thus, Israelis need to be enemies with Iran since they then financially profit from the labors of the American taxpayer.

The only problem with this is that eventually the Americans will have borrowed so much that they won't be able to pay the debt interest, preventing them from borrowing more in order to donate more money to finance Israel's need to have enemies. So, Israelis will eventually find that Americans will no longer be able to donate money regardless of how guilty for Israel they feel. They will then have to watch the Israelis as they struggle to find free money to continue financing their desire to have enemies.

 

Full relations with Iran are beneficial for everyone. The only problem with it is that Americans will have fewer reasons to borrow more to increase their debt further, while Israelis will find it to be more difficult to collect free taxpayer dollars from the Americans.

 

I agree.

Not free. They provide a lot in return.

 

This can be true for some economic investments, but not for the money wasted by the US government:

Data published by the US Department of State shows that the US distributed around $5.5 billion in aid to its allies around the world in 2011 – more than 80 countries - See more at: http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/ne...t-military-aid-to-israel#sthash.INOq4Lie.dpuf

 

OK, ill talk to you when you wake up,
ps, you talk while you sleep.

 

Where else can you find a nation in the area you know is going to be there for the next few decades that you don't have to worry about becoming a Jihadist haven, can use as a storage point and ship refueling point, test your new weapons, improve your new weapons, collect some of the best intelligence available and act as your proxy in certain contingencies? Iran? Egypt? Syria?

 

That should be good enough into fooling gullible Americans into throwing away a few more billion dollars for nothing. You got it right that the US government loves wasting money!

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While we sleep, Americans are still donating billions of taxpayer dollars to finance Israel's desire to have "enemies".

 

You have a very "intresting" view ill give you that,

Iran is activly fighting Israel for several decades now throu Hamas and Hizbi's, that's not some hate speeches over the UN but real ppl that get killed so the "freindly neighbor' crap is one of the best propaganda jokes I heard in this forum for a long while, Jack's included...

As for US aid, Israel spends much more then 3 bl $ on US arms per year so intersts aside, its a US business, I know how well that myth is sold in Muslim markets but fact is, was'nt it profitable to the US in income and politics - it wouldnt have happend at all, certainly not in incresed volume...

 

I just showed that it is not throwing anything away as the cost to replace what I explained would cost tent times that. Now, please show us you have something other than hubris and non topic garbage to put forth to make your point.

I never said that. Putting words in other peoples mouths is disingenuous to say the least.

 

Israel never leaves Lebanon alone... They planted mines when they finally left in May 2000.. They still occupy Shaaba Farms and the Golan Heights.... and Israel still invades Lebanese airspace weekly flying low and fast as deep as Sidon.

They have made many attempts to take the Litani river.. or divert water from the other two rivers in Lebanon.. Wazzami and Hazbani.

I think Israel does make enemies for their own purposes...

 

Does the U.S have any other interests? The Germans are regretting the decision, as it hurts their economy severely. And it only hampers the Russian-Iranian connection. And is it in our interest to entertain a widening regional warfare in the Middle East? So, NO one wins. Ah, but the most aggressive nation in the region that won't even sign ancient treaties that the suspect nation in question signed.

Who would? It's one of the more disruptive countries in the region today. You have Netanyahu openly comparing Iran to 1930's Germany, which even you should find utterly deplorable. Is that to say that Iranians will gas their own people?(No, they actually did sign the CW as well). Is Iran participating in a military build-up, such as Hitler did after Versallies?

No, for that, we'd have to look at China in Asia. In reality, it is Japan that faces an existential threat. Yet to this threat, the neutral peaceful state has not wavered in the slightest. Israel faces no threats, but needs to create one to justify her own international violations and butchering of human life.

You have no argument but looking the other way, and that's not an argument. Israel must comply with INTL. Law or face continuing disassociation with the world community. Perhaps, a dwindling number of lawmakers will support them.

But the world community of 7 billion can only laugh, cry and shake our heads at this naked nation-aggressor.

 

It would be hard to keep up the belief/image of being a persecuted people, without enemies.

 

I agree.. its the glue of Zionism and Bibi's ace.

 

As much as we would like to take Iran's support of Hamas and Hizbi's in good Humor, we really can't, nope, they are defintly enemies.