Voter suppression

Yes ma'am.

 

i guess you're incapable of it

 

Try to make some sense this time, has nothing to do with political party.

Why do you want someone who has no idea who is running for an office, has no idea what their positions on the issues are, has no idea what the issues are to go into a voting booth and pull a lever? Why do you want that it makes no sense to want that. What good does it do the country?

 

restricting voting rights is what doesn't make sense

 

Ok the polling place is wide open the uninformed are free to register and go and vote, now try again

Try to make some sense this time, has nothing to do with political party.

Why do you want someone who has no idea who is running for an office, has no idea what their positions on the issues are, has no idea what the issues are to go into a voting booth and pull a lever? Why do you want that it makes no sense to want that. What good does it do the country?

 

if people don't have a photo id, they don't get to vote


93 Year-Old Black Man Disenfranchised by Alabama Voter ID Law

Willie Mims, 93, showed up to vote at his polling place in Escambia County Tuesday morning for Alabama’s primary elections. Mims, who is African-American, no longer drives, doesn’t have a license, and has no other form of ID. As a result, he was turned away without voting. Mims wasn’t even offered the chance to cast a provisional ballot, as the law requires in that situation.

http://www.blackpressusa.com/2014/06/93-year-old-black-man-disenfranchised-by-alabama-voter-id-law/#sthash.bkncD0Uh.dpbs

 

Taxcutter says:
If one cannot establish his/her identity, why should they be allowed to vote?

 

Not an issue here we'll stick with people who do.

Now focus like a laser and address the question

Why do you want someone who has an ID but has no idea who is running for an office, has who has an ID but no idea what their positions on the issues are, has who has an IDbut no idea what the issues are to go into a voting booth and pull a lever? Why do you want that it makes no sense to want that. What good does it do the country?

 

sure it is

 

Not in our discussion, why so afraid to give an answer?

Why do you want someone who has an ID but has no idea who is running for an office, has who has an ID but no idea what their positions on the issues are, has who has an IDbut no idea what the issues are to go into a voting booth and pull a lever? Why do you want that it makes no sense to want that. What good does it do the country?

 

because of their right to vote

 

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-25/news/mn-7435_1_republican-national-committee





GOP Memo Admits Plan Could 'Keep Black Vote Down'

October 25, 1986|From the Washington Post

NEWARK, N.J. — A Republican National Committee official calculated that a so-called ballot security program in Louisiana "could keep the black vote down considerably," according to documents released in federal court Friday.

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http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/news/la-pn-supreme-court-rnc-voter-fraud-20130114

 

..."could"...if "could" possibly keep white vote down to for the same reason.

What does that have to do with the question posed to Dujac? And I will challenge you to answer the same.

Why do you want someone who has an ID but has no idea who is running for an office, has who has an ID but no idea what their positions on the issues are, has who has an IDbut no idea what the issues are to go into a voting booth and pull a lever? Why do you want that it makes no sense to want that. What good does it do the country?

 

How do you know they are qualified to exercise that right and they are properly registered and do so at that polling place if you can't confirm who they are?

 

the same way we have for the past 60 years

 

Taxcutter says:
Somebody with no identity has a right to vote?

 

i am, therefore i vote

[video=youtube;jha6SvVLXjU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jha6SvVLXjU[/video]

The Voting Rights Act of 1965 (42 U.S.C. §§ 1973–1973bb-1):372 is a landmark piece of federal legislation in the United States that prohibits discrimination in voting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965

 

Taxcutter says:
So just anybody can vote? Does that include illegal aliens? Does that include multiple aliases? Does that include dead people? Does that include people who never were? Can Donald Duck vote?

Can I show up early at your voting precinct, claim to be you and vote?

 

pretending there is a problem with that is a lie.
EVERY study done shows that problem is infantesimile

 

The Al Franken Syndrome

 

Why? Representation for the sake of representation servers no one well. Why is having people totally ignorant of who the candidates are, what their positions on the issues are and what the issues are represented good for the country

How so if they are clueless to the issues or how the person they are picking stands on the issues? They like the name Bob so they for Bob, how does that serve the country well?

It's there obligation to get educated and who is discouraging them and how? I merely, as the person in the video clip stated, don't want them to vote. I can't stop them, but I certainly don't want to ENCOURAGE them to vote.

Sure I want people to educate themselves on the issues and candidates, but if they don't I certainly don't want them to vote why would you? If they are doing no more than throwing a dart at the ballot why would you want them to vote?

Fine but there is a BIG difference between encouraging people to be politically aware and informed and just encouraging them to vote for the sake of voting when they have no idea what they are voting about or for whom.

They probably aren't and we shouldn't encourage them to do so. Sure encourage them to educate themselves and THEN vote, but not vice-versa.

 

of course you can't make a rational argument

 

BTW as noted in another thread

Mississippi’s voter ID program got a trial run in the June 3 primary. Result: No disenfranchisement.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/06/bi...nted-problems/

 

TUE JUN 03, 2014

Thanks to new voter ID law, 93-year-old voter turned away in Alabama

Willie Mims, 93, showed up to vote at his polling place in Escambia County Tuesday morning for Alabama’s primary elections. Mims, who is African-American, no longer drives, doesn’t have a license, and has no other form of ID. As a result, he was turned away without voting. Mims wasn’t even offered the chance to cast a provisional ballot, as the law requires in that situation.
Jenny McCharen of Empower Alabama, a progressive group that gave Mims a ride to the polls, recounted the story for msnbc. McCharen said Mims’s voter file showed he has voted in every election since 2000, as far back as the records go.

According to the Brennan Center for Justice, nearly 11% of the U.S. population doesn't have identification:

The 11 percent of eligible voters who lack the required photo ID must travel to a designated government office to obtain one. Yet many citizens will have trouble making this trip. In the 10 states with restrictive voter ID laws:

- Nearly 500,000 eligible voters do not have access to a vehicle and live more than 10 miles from the nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. Many of them live in rural areas with dwindling public transportation options.

- More than 10 million eligible voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week.

- 1.2 million eligible black voters and 500,000 eligible Hispanic voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. People of color are more likely to be disenfranchised by these laws since they are less likely to have photo ID than the general population.

- Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month. But only four months in 2012 — February, May, August, and October — have five Wednesdays. In other states — Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas — many part-time ID-issuing offices are in the rural regions with the highest concentrations of people of color and people in poverty.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/03/1304147/-Thanks-to-new-voter-ID-law-93-year-old-voter-turned-away-in-Alabama#