Michael Brown Shooting: This is intresting

Moving at 50 feet? Agreed. Less than 10 or 5? Not so much. In fact, if they're that close, why not do what Jack Ruby did to Lee Harvey Oswarld? Having a .40 shoved in the gut and the trigger pulled a few times slows down even drugged out perps much less sober ones.

Disagreed. Sure, he could have dropped his gun and ran like a little girl...or he could have wildly shot over 6 or more shots at the suspect.

Wanna make a bet? When the facts are all in, do you think Wilson actually only fired 6 shots, all hits, or did he fire more?

 

Wait, wasn't the "no prior criminal record" thing a little game the media played? Wasn't there some discussion that this criminal record was as an adult, Brown only having turned 18 three months prior...what about his juvenile record?

But, seriously, does Brown have a record (adult or juvenile), or not?

 

True, I also pointed that out in another thread. I guess we won't know for sure till more information comes out.

 

Listening to some of you guys has gotten almost comical, almost. Now his size comes into play in this encounter, but during the Zimmerman case the mere fact that Zimmerman was 205lbs and Trayvon was only 160lb didn't come into play. Now that the tables are flipped and Mike Brown is 296lb its a major factor. BTW how much does Officer Wilson weigh?

 

I don't know. My guess would be, if he had, it would have been reported by one of the more conservative news agencies...unless you think they are completely stupid and too inept to find the answer on that one.

 

While I'm still waiting for the evidence, it wouldn't surprise me if he emptied his magazine.

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Agreed on the flip-flop. Still, you are fully aware of my viewpoint on the Zimmerman-Martin case and you've seen many of my posts here.

 

But -- and correct me if I am wrong -- if some of the shots were 'through and through' then they would have still traveled far enough to embed in the side of a house, yes?

 

35 and at even less.

Because the police do not have to allow an attacking assailant get that close before they can defend themselves. Do you even know what a bumrush is?

Not if they have bumrushed and knocked you over prossibly causing you to lose your weapon, especially after you have already been knock silly by the first blow the assailant administered to you.

Yes that would be the result of a panic, not standing their facing your assailant as he charges straight at you.

I know he fired more. So you would be OK if the first shot had killed Brown, it's that fact it took more shots that you take issue with else what is your point?

 

So you agree Brown's size has something to do with the threat he posed? Martin/Zimmerman about a 55lb difference with Zimmerman pinned on the ground with Martin having the advantage of leverage as was testified to in court. Brown/Wilson about a 116lb. difference with Brown rushing at full speed to bumrush Wilson.

So yes the tables are indeed flipped aren't they. So what is your point exactly, you claimed that the person who weights more always has the advantage and presents the bigger danger, so how do you apply that here?

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You are ignorant of the fact that juvenile records are sealed and not public documents like an adult arrest record?

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There is a recording of the shots being fired, you have the evidence.

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They were misses.

 

LOL, what a joke. So you are telling me a 160lb teenager can pin a 205lb man to the ground. Nobody bought that BS in court and nobody is buying it now.

Please tell me how you know that Officer Wilson weighs 180lbs. Also we have yet to hear anything concrete that Brown was rushing at him full speed. That is all opinion probably yours more so than anyone else.

 

Reading your post, Marine.....you automatically dismiss black eyewitnesses, but if a white person says it happens, you admit it must be true.

Is that right?

 

No joke, yes or no you are asserting here too that the bigger person has a decided advantage no matter what?

 

What is questionable are statements given by people going to the press days and weeks after the event occurred and have been exposed to the public narrative and other witness statements. Uncoached, uninfluenced, contemporaneous accounts carry more weight. And we still have the report by CNN that the police have multple such witness accounts that support the statement of events by the family friend of the police officer which supports the more detailed contemporaneous account we first had.

 

Yeah, because we all know "White" people never lie...

Why the capitalization of "white"?

 

How old is Officer Wilson and how much does Officer Wilson weigh? See there is a difference in a man and a teenager, that is the concept that you don't want to grasp.

 

It must not matter that this gentle giant injured the police officers( 5'--8 , 180lbs) eye ,and Im sure if a 6'-4" 300 lbs punches YOUR eye , you would say " police ,please stop hitting me ".
Has everyone lost ALL common sense . If you decide to attack a police officer and injurer him or her , then they WILL use deadly force period . Why didn't you mention the VIDEO of the " gentle giant" throwing the store clerk around like a rag doll . Funny , that doesn't come up in any of the comment .

 

The estimates I've heard are around 180lb his age has nothing to do with it. Want to make it 200lb be my guest.

So again your assertion is the person who weights more is in control and has the advantage, why are you suddenly changing your tune?

 

You are obviously ignorant of the fact not all evidence is locked up in juvie records. There's neighbors, schoolmates, teachers, store owners such as the one pictured. Do you really think that's the first time Brown was in that store or any others within walking distance? Now we know why you aren't a detective nor an investigative journalist; can't see outside the box.

Awesome! How many shots were on that recording?

 

Their juvenile records ARE SEALED. Only a judge can order them open and only for extraordinary circumstance.

Don't take my word for it go find it for yourself. Then tell me why you keep yourself so uniformed on subjects you then come here to debate and challenge others on?

 

So you are telling me there is no difference between a 18yr old teenager and a 30yr old man.

You are the tune changer. You are the one who tried to make the claim that a 205lb man's weight was no advantage over a teenager who weighed 160lbs.

 

Did you even bother to read what I said? Let me repost it for you:

You don't know!? LOL Unsurprising, sir. Next time you want to provide evidence, my humble recommendation is for you to actually know what you are talking about. Fine, you don't know how many total shots were fired and neither do I. I'm confident the investigation will reveal both how many shell casings were found and how many live rounds were left in Officer Wilson's magazine.

 

Almost 150 posts and I still haven't gotten to the "interesting" part.

/thread fail.

 

That's not quite correct. FMJ bullets are intended to deform as little as possible. Conversely, bullets like softpoints, jacketed-hollowpoints and hollowpoints are intended to deform as a means to expend as much of their energy on the target as possible. This is why the Geneva Convention requires the former and many hunting regulations require the latter. The former is to "humanize" war and the latter is to kill the animal as quickly and humanely as possible.