It is 2015 , should governments outlaw religion?

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    what does either have to do with religion? Spoiling a dog is what people do when they equate dogs to children.... and not specific to any demographic, or religion.....

    would you suggest also criminalizing dogs on furniture?

    http://www.cbcfc.org/missions-partners/


    here, a random "central baptist church" doing humanitarian missions.....


    oh the humanity.....
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Yep, dogs don't belong on furniture, and those men should be in mental health hospitals. The church youth group I assist with is planning to help out a local homeless group. But, I guess you want things like that banned, after all, we are church members who should be killed if we don't kowtow to your idea of outlawing religion.
     
  3. Equality

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    S o you have no objection to using your church and turning it into accommodation for the homeless, then they would not be homeless . The irony.
     
  4. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't be a very good homeless shelter (not enough bathroom space), and it's kind of drafty. I think it's much better to use the church as a place where the Priest's sermons have the effect of raising money for the homeless (and a lot of other causes).

    That said, we did open our church's classroom space to refugees from Hurricane Katrina for a few months.

    My main thing is the idea of basic liberty, which you are opposed to. Where are you from? Germany or Russia or some other country? You're not a native English writer (although you do write well, just your syntax isn't native), I can tell that much.
     
  5. Object227

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    outlaw what specifically? In order to outlaw religion you would have to make it illegal to practice it. That means the govt will shut down churches, synagogues, mosques and any other religious temples. It means censoring the bible, Quran, book of Mormon. It means prohibiting prayer no matter where it takes place. It may even mean hooking all people to a mind reading device and removing all religious thought. I know you don't want to go this far but that's what outlawing religion actually means in practice.
     
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    Who will declassify these books? The government? By what method? What if a private bookstore doesn't follow your order?
     
  7. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I've never seen books officially classified (or declassified).

    He's already said "I am in essence advocating the use of force to outlaw religion." So I guess, he would force the bookstore to follow the order, and then he would have them beaten up or killed if they didn't comply.
     
  8. TrackerSam

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    You're right. I've mentioned his syntax several times. I wonder if atheist groups get together and raise money for the homeless. I know atheist individuals will, but I'm referring to any groups that might exist, seeing as a group can make much more of an impact than an individual can. Then again he's not after atheist money, he's only after church money.
     
  9. jrr777

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    And most people claim God is a fairy tale lol. Is that your way of excusing God from your life. Think of it this way, God loves you unconditionally and with jealousy. Think how he must feel with you talking this way.
     
  10. Wehrwolfen

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    However, you are agreeing with Fascists, Socialists and Marxists that have attempt to abolish religion particularly Orthodox Christianity, Judaism and Islam in Russia from 1917 to 1990 with no success. The same goes for China and North Korea today.
    How can you claim that the Bible is fictional when scholars and archeologists continue to verify places and facts true as found in the Bible?
    So what would you do with the Bibles and other religious books and reading materials? Do you agree that any abridgement of religion and the confiscation of their books, land and properties is against the First Amendment of our U.S. Constitution?

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
     
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    And that smacks of Fascist Marxist Hooliganism.
     
  12. Equality

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    And there goes the copout, not as drafty as a park bench I bet, more toilets than a street for sure. Ze games zup, ze got me now, Im bloody English have told you once. Think milk bottle i dont see much sunshine.
     
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    Book store? try publishing companies.
     
  14. Equality

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    URRR. I am not after any money, I am humble , I need no money I have a roof over my head unlike some, the government should take the churches money what do they need for it? Join our religion and we feed you some scraps of food so we can control you to?
     
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    I'm not sure if you're talking like that to convince ME he's real or to convince yourself.
     
  16. perdidochas

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    So what do YOU DO for the homeless?
     
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    I have no wealth I am quite poor, but I do put money in the collection pots if i see the homeless, I do not have a big house like a church so have no spare room(s), but what I do , do, is I have some friends who are unfortunate and I try my best to make sure they are eating and feed them if needed etc, even so much as brought them clothes. I know it isn't much and if I was wealthy I would gladly give an awful lot more, a person doesn't need that much money , the sort of money rich people have, the sort of money that buys cats diamonds, The only thing I am needy for is a few more holidays,I have had one in 20 years, I live inland and do not drive, it is expensive, you can rent a house for a month for the price of one week in a holiday home (caravan) , and the beaches are just horrible.
    This is like most people I know in my area, they do not go outside of our prison of circumstance.
     
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    Understandable. However I know for a fact that God is the creator Alpha and the Omega. I would get my head cut off for this belief. And the way things are going, I wouldn't doubt that it is near.
     
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    ... he says as he argues that everyone in the world should be forcibly divested in whatever belief they have in God, because he, himself does not believe in God.
    :lol:
     
  20. Equality

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    The only reason you all think there is a God is because humanity use to think there was a flat earth and a Firmament. Science since discovered there was no firmament showing there was no God, unless you really did blast a load of Nuek's at the sky in about the 50's?
     
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    Do you think anyone really cares why you believe there is no God?
     
  22. Equality

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    not really, the world is owned, we are prisoners of circumstance, you have the red buttons and control of the armies , we have no say. I bet you a lot of people in the world if had a choice would happily be separated from the rest of the world so we could get some tranquil life rather than this slave thing.
     
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    Good.
    Now, take you narcissistic fantasies somewhere else.
     
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    You just a proved a point, you feel like you can order me to go somewhere else, how ironic, how about you go somewhere else with your false beliefs, like a religion forum?
     
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    Want some cheese with that whine?

    You don't believe in God. That's your right - and no one cares.
    Imposing your lack of religious beliefs on others in no different than the religious imposing their beliefs on you.
     

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