It is 2015 , should governments outlaw religion?

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  1. perdidochas

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    ????? Again, the atheist fundamentalist.

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    You made it political by wanting to have the world governments ban religion. I really don't care what you believe, as long as you don't interfere with my right to worship and openly express my religion.
     
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    Religion is bad, government is also bad, ban both.
     
  3. thinkitout

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    I can't believe the number of responses to this thread!!! . . . Are we arguing validity of the First Amendment here?
     
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    Politics is religion. All wars are fought over either resources or religion. Therefore politics is religion.

    However as a Christian, it is not a religion, but rather the simple truth. Or just the way it is.
     
  5. Object227

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    Did you miss the point? He's claiming you want to use force. You seem to agree. Do you want to use force to remove religious belief or not?
     
  6. Equality

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    Yes I am , I also want to prove scientifically there is no god and try to do it in a such a way , a six year old would understand, If I can prove there is no God, that will prove there is no vestal virgins waiting for certain cultures.

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    History used force to force religious belief so why not? Deport them all, dont let them in, they cant cause no harm if they are not here.
     
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    Holy smokes. This atheist is a wannabe tyrant. As a group, atheists have an undeserved poor reputation among many believers but you are giving those believers a reason to think they are right. You really do hate and want to remove religious people from civilization on the grounds that those religious folks will do some kind of harm. Don't wait for a crime to be committed first and then prosecute the violators. Just assume by reference to ideas in their mind (God belief specifically in this case) that they will commit crimes even thought they haven't and likely will NOT commit crimes. This is worse than Minority Report.
     
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    We are a Christian professing nation. Jesus said the wealthy should give away all they have and give it to the poor. If these professing Christians did that and gave the $30 trillion they have sheltered overseas, our society would be a virtual Paradise.

    Let's see the forum right wingers demand that they obey the Prince of Peace.
     
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    We are a nation of CINO's (christians in name only). Few of the "christians" actually follow the teachings of jesus christ. Instead, the American version of religion is largely a self-aggrandizing activity, designed to make yourself feel better, (partly by demonizing those who don't share your beliefs).

    Muslims actually take their religion seriously. In the Koran, it says you should go and kill the infidel---and that's what they do. The bible says the same thing - but christians pretty much ignore that - cause no one really has the time to read the bible anyway. We're too busy living our fast-paced short-attention-span immediate-gratification American lives.
     
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    Bush claimed that he was told by God to invade Iraq and called his invasion a "crusade" (a term deemed highly offensive in the Middle East and tantamount to "pogrom" by Muslims). Tens of thousands have died because of the actions taken by Christian Bush and his apologists.
     
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    yea-that's not exactly how it happenned...LOL.
     
  12. yguy

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    Dunno who the hell you think you're kidding.
     
  13. godisnotreal

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    The bible is clear - nonbelievers should be put to death:

    Deuteronomy 17

    If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
     
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    Nothing in there about "unbelievers"; and nothing suggesting they should "go and kill the infidel", as the underlined clearly implies the penalty applied only to Israelites.

    But do feel free to try again.
     
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    If you oppose the First Amendment, why is your username "Equality"?
     
  16. Equality

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    Some body said Jesus said, there is a very big difference.

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    No religion is equal , religion is not equal.

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    The history of evidence shows a future that is not going to change.
     
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    wow,you really are in denial, aren't you!!!

    It's quite clear: " And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded....Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."

    Can it be any clearer?

    Of course, the bible doesn't stop there:

    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

    All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

    I can go on and on and on.

    LOL.. clearly you don't even know anything about your own religion...LOL.

    So according to your logic--god told the israelites to kill all nonbelievers, but somehow, this does not apply to everyrone else? Do you realize that the 10 commandments was also addressed to the israelites. Thus, by your logic, the 10 commandments do not apply to anbyone who isn't jewish.....LOL---honestly, you don't even know your own religion! You need an atheist to explain this to you. That's sad.
     
  18. Equality

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    There was three lemmings standing in a field , two young lemmings and an older lemming the young lemmings looked up to by his wise words. The old lemming says

    ''wonder across the plane of this field, at the end do not fear of the cliff, for when you jump off you will go to a different place and are rewarded''

    The two young Lemmings looked at one another before one of them ran across the field to the cliff where the Lemming fell of the edge. The second young Lemming walked over and looked over the edge to see his young friend lying on the rocks beneath him lifeless.

    ''Go on'' said the elder more wiser Lemming


    The young lemming paused for a while, and said to the elder much wiser Lemming '' it is your belief you go to a better place and are rewarded, your go first''

    What do you think the older Lemming would say?
     
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    If there's a problem with being in denial of nonsensical interpretations of scripture such as yours, I confess to being at a loss as to what it might be.

    That you've misrepresented the Bible? Hardly.

    You're not paying attention, pilgrim.

    Yeah, and still not present anything that supports your assertion.

    And what religion might that be, pray tell?

    Since when is "my logic" properly equated to your lie about the Bible?
     
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    LOL. Yes - that's how you religious people do it. Whenever there's something in the bible that you find distasteful, you say "that's not what god really meant" and you reinterpret the words to mean something else. Nevermind that throughout history, people read those same words, and they actually DID stone adulterers to death. But somehow THEIR interpretation (ie actually following the words of the bible) is always wrong, YOUR reinterpretation of the bible is always correct! Yea right, gimme a break.
     
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    After 11/13 after what happened in Paris its tempting. But I would just declare any religion who is discriminatory, speaks out hate for protected groups or makes said groups feel bad as a Hate Group under the government so they lose all government support for programs and non-profit status could be removed.
     
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    Religion has ruined the world....
     
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    The OP admits he was completely ignorant of the 1st Amendment before he created this thread.

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    And you shall forever fail to do so.
     
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    more people have died in the name of the bible than for any other reason in history

    ~ Alan Watts ~
     
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