So, Trump just basically suggested a police state...

The point is that you don't need "legit reasons" to own something that isn't illegal to begin with. You call the cops in, they find a bunch of stuff that is legal to own, and they leave.

You can't imprison someone for owning something that is legal to own.

 

I didn't say he was Hitler, and I'm not a fan of FDR. I was just curious to know your reaction to Mr. Trump's suggestion. What's wrong?

 

if he cant prove he has a reasonable explanation to have either yes he can go on the radar as suspicious activity watch and monitored
just owning something not illegal doesn't keep you from law enforcement reasonable suspicion and a warrants issued so a more thorough search can be conducted like on your computer and phone

 

Whats wrong is people are comparing Trump to Hitler and that is doing history a disservice...

Comparing Trump to Hitler is minimizing what Hitler did and making Trump look like a man that murdered 6,000,000 people.

Funny how Stalin or Lenin hasn't been brought up yet - these progressives won't use their names in vein but collectively they murdered around 100,000,000.

 

because it could be used to make something illegal and you had sufficent grounds to be concerned about it? thats the situation we are talking baout right?

If your 100% sure then there is no reason. Just like giving a tip to the police when you call 911 or something.

I know liberals get blinders of love on when you discuss muslims but remove that first and treat it like another crime. If you knew a conservative christian was going to shoot up PP would you alert the authorities?

 

And "going on the radar" stops suicide attacks how?

Police wouldn't have been monitoring the San Bernardino couple 24/7.

As for the Orlando shooting, his plans were in his head. Trying to bring him to trial would have required the government proving he committed a future thoughtcrime.

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I guarantee you that I can make something illegal and deadly with just stuff you have in your house. Should you be in prison as a terrorist or on a watch list for owning them?

I know you rightists love to get your blinders on and say "who cares? They're Muslims!" when it comes to the civil liberties of a few million people, but the Constitution applies to everyone in this country. There are not legal products that suddenly become illegal just because Muslims own them.

 

FDR was for limiting wages on the rich not just the poor; especially during real times of war, not artificial times of war, like we have now.

It cannot be real times of War without real times of War tax rates.

 

like being watched like loading up all your guns and bombs into your car being stopped and questioned monitoring your phone conversations and computer activity planning the attack
you are purposely being obtuse and naïve or is it not on purpose and it is your normal frame of mind?
you have made it clear with obtuseness and naivety your are trolling and I refuse to contuee to feed the trolls

 

Problem for Dougie is, in order to enforce this little idea, it will likely entail a complete rewriting of the criminal codes in all states. In most instances, it is not against the law to fail to report an actual witnessed crime, much less suspicious behavior.

 

Police don't have the manpower to watch people 24/7 forever. At best, all you do is postpone an attack.

 

According to the OP, Trump 'suggested' a police state while the progressive left continues to work toward one with the thought police and bans on rights.

 

if people had a good faith suspicion that i am making terrorist stuff they should report me. The police can run a background check most likely without my knowledge or interference in my life and it will come out clean

More info is always good rather than none.

 

And just to be clear what illegal thing would they have found in the San Bernardino or Orlando attackers backgrounds that would have resulted in them being in jail and not able to conduct a future attack?

 

the semi-religious right can't handle truly religious morals.

 

But I'm talking to you. No one else, and I haven't called him Hitler. Are you just avoiding addressing my question or what?

 

i have no idea. they may have found something maybe or maybe not. always better to do the check though just in case. It might help in the future.

 

dudes, murder is immoral and already illegal; what more do you want?

 

Careful there mate, your slippery slope is showing.

 

A lot of odd stuff here. 1st exactly what is the difference between a real Islamic radical terrorist fighting in Syria and a lone nut screaming Allah Akbar or some such while killing 50 innocents in Florida? Only geography, they are both fighting toward exactly the same goal. One is as real and dangerous as the other. Everyone in ISIS has mental issues of one sort or the other and that makes them no less dangerous and may make them more so.

Both sides fear monger constantly. The only difference is that which they think you ought to fear.

It is not bigotry to take precautions against that which has proven to be dangerous it is merely common sense. There have been more than a few Pew Research polls that indicate that most American Muslims would like to see Sharia law established in this country, and that some twenty percent are cheering for ISIS. These are troubling numbers and no one is bothering to try to find out how much of Sharia they want or how far beyond cheering those sentiments run.

And no this whole thing is not about one man with mental issues it is about dozens and exactly where that tipping point is at which a sane rational Muslim suddenly becomes a murdering hyper religious hate monger bent on destruction.

 

I answered your question....

Did I not say that putting US citizens in camps is wrong?

People who compare Trump to Hitler is wrong.

 

That's open to question.... the similarities between Trump and Hitler in the early years are a bit scary.

Open up the history books and look at Hitler when he first ran for Chancellor of Germany. Hitler's platform was populist, racist, law and order, isolationist and targeted specific religious groups and races/ethnicities.
Compare Trump's platform, populist, racist, mysogionist, isolationist and targeting specific religious groups and races/ethnicities.
All Hitler is missing is being a mysogionist. All Trump is missing is the little Charlie Chaplin mustache (although he has the odd hair thing).

Trump was a joke, now he's becoming scary.

 

We should have the government violate their privacy just in case.

Spoken like a true statist.

 

I don't think Trump has murdered 6m people. Hopefully we've learned better than to give a crazy like Trump or Hitler an army and a country.

But you have to admit that, with the exception of the Charlie Chaplin mustache, the similarities between Trump and Hitler when he first ran for Chancellor of Germany are striking and scary.

 

lol they already do that. so much of what you are is online nowadays. All they have to do is run a quick check to see if you need further checking. Rejecting any idea of hand by applying labels when there are lives at stake is stupid. These are gay lives too very high on the democratic hierarchy! Its not like were talking about straight white males here

 

If Only,

we could find nice politicians of morals.