Russian General: Why Assad can't win the war in Syria

I remember that quite well, I also remember that we sent those bastards that committed the crimes to what we thought were a court for war criminals and not selective for political agenda.

I cant remember any of you Americans geting sentenced for your genocide in Vietnam for example? Or the nukes on Japan? Or the countless wars you have waged on other countries And you mention ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia, which was P*ss in the sea compared to your war games, even if we killed every single one in Yugoslavia it would still be a joke compared to what you have done.

But hey, little Hollywood good guys bad guys can wash all that away.

 

Agreed but unfortunately these things can easily get out of hand particularly when there are underlying tensions.
However its far easier for people to believe in other stories like the Syrian civil war was caused by foreign agents or other such stories of that type.

 

Syria is a territory of anarchy. In the morning you are ISIS, in the evening you are FSA, and in the night you are al Nusra. It's easy. Just choose a flag you need at the moment. Who can control you?

The most interesting question is why the USA has bombed ISIS for two years and gained nothing, while ISIS managed to spread itself all over Iraq and Syria. Putin is bombing ISIS too, Palmyra was recaptured from ISIS, but in general you're right.

Why Putin is bombing al Nusra and FSA? It's simple. Because Putin is solving the first step problems. From Russian point of view it's impossible to keep Syria as independent secular state without Assad. And who is attacking Assad? FSA and Al Nusra first. Look at the map, FSA attacked Assad in Alepo and in Damacus, Al Nusra controls Idleb - an important area between Aleppo and Latakia. When FSA and Al Nusra are finished, then will be an ISIS' turn. So, the military situation demanded first to defeat the closest enemies, not to leave them alone anywhere behind. Of course, Syrian army could not leave the rebels in Aleppo and move its forces to fight with ISIS in the deserts of eastern Syria.

For us all that scumbags are the same, and who is to be killed first is just a matter of tactics. Anyway, here we have another importnat question why it happened so that the FSA and Al Nusra are the main enemies of Assad. Why exactly these rebel groups are fighting Assad in the most important areas? Is it some accidental effect?

Looks like it's not.

Every terrorist group needs money, arms and people. Especially such big groups like those ones in Syria - which armed with tanks, artillery, which have vast logistic capabilities and which hold cities and towns under its control. War is expensive. Where do they get money? From their sponsors.

Thus, Al Qaeda is a creation of Saudi Arabia's intelligence service. ISIS is a competing project established by Qatar. Al Nusra is funded and supplied from Turkey. FSA is a mix of various gangsters and terroristы called by the US State Department an "FSA". Sponsors of the terrorists thought in advance who was going to take Damascus - the same as allies in 1945 decided the fate of Berlin. So, having ISIS too close to Damascus was not good from political point of view.

But again I don't trust too much to those definitions who is FSA and who is Al Nusra. They maybe both simultaneously, how would you distinct them?

For example, Turkey has shared border with ISIS, so what? They also have oil trade between them.

 

Saudi Arabia didn't create al Qaeda. LOLOL.. In 1994 KSA revoked OBL's citizenship and declared AQ a terrorist organization.

Syria has almost no oil.. Less than 30,000 bpd before the war broke out.. not nearly enough to meet their domestic needs, .. and what they do have is sour sludge.. Its very poor quality.. only fit for asphalt.

 

As usual you are out of your mind!!

I was THERE!!!

I was also at the Pristina Airport when a bunch of Russian KIDS were ordered to walk an extremely long distance and almost get accidentally killed by NATO Forces when the Russian Military dropped them into a MEAT GRINDER with no support and no supplies JUST SO THEY COULD GET TO THE AIRPORT!!

Those Russian Kids almost died as their Superiors told them if they accepted any food, water or medical aid from the American's they would be SHOT!!

We watched as they got sicker and sicker until I could not take it anymore so we called up their Russian Leadership and told them if they did not allow those kids to take food and water from us we would shoot them with tranquilizer guns and force feed them if necessary!!

A deal was cut and the Russian's allowed the British Troops to supply the Russian kids with food, water and medical supplies.

AA

 

I am not interested to read your fantasies.

 

No fantasy DonRumataEst0rsky ... but a truth you don't like to read! And this is the general problem of people like you who are wanting only to believe in their own propaganda constructs! But you are not alone and it is not only your side who is ignoring truth because not liked!

 

The nonsense of AboveAlpha are not the truth. Especially funny to read how NATO bastards cared about the Russian soldiers... Germans urged the Soviet soldiers to surrender and then killed 3 million prisoners. We know Western bastards very well.

 

Wikileaks: Saudis 'chief funders of al-Qaeda'
Private individuals in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states friendly to the United States are the chief source of funding for al-Qaeda, the Taliban and other terrorist groups, according to leaked US diplomatic cables.
"Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide," added the document.
The tiny kingdom of Qatar, which was last week granted the right to stage the 2022 World Cup, was singled out as the "worst in the region" in terms of its co-operation with the US. Qatar's approach on militant financing is "largely passive," and its security services "have been hesitant to act against known terrorists" because they fear being seen too close to the United States, the memo said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...kileaks-Saudis-chief-funders-of-al-Qaeda.html

Saudi government funded extremism in U.S. mosques and charities: report
Saudi Arabia was funding Muslim radicalism in mosques and charities at the time the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers were gathering in the United States and making contacts with Saudi nationals, according to a declassified intelligence document.
To jihad watchers, the paper confirms their charges that the Saudi government and its wealthy citizens fund extremist teachings in America. To this day, the kingdom is pressing its harsh Wahhabi Sunni Islam on American Muslims as it seeks to spread Islam around the world, they say.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/19/911-report-details-saudi-arabia-funding-of-muslim-/

 

On the contrary, Saudi Arabia is the very cradle of AQ. I see that despite my urging, you never did watch Bitter Lake!

 

And after the war were 1.5 million killed in USSR POW camps. In Stalingrad 1943. about 108,000 German soldiers became POW ... of what 8,000 survived POW camps and last one came home in 1956.

B U T ... do I blame or accuse the USSR or Russia for anything here about? No! But it is again you and Destroyer of Illusion who put out the WW-2 issue in cases which have nothing to do with it. And most ridiculous with this is that you try to blame the wrong German again and again here! My grandfather fought as German against Germany and the other one was in punishment unit because he denied to shot on civilians!

 

The most interesting is that the Americans have killed about 1.5 million prisoners Germans. The British killed 0.5 million prisoners Germans. Americans and British have killed 500 thousand civilians in Dresden for no reason. Allies!
The Soviet people had reason to hate the Germans, but the Soviet people killed 2 times less Germans than the Germans killed the Soviet people. At the same time West squeals about the trillions of raped German women. But no one remembers about raped Soviet women. When the Soviet army entered Berlin, then the Germans suddenly began to victims of the Nazi regime and began to whine that Russians are very brutal.

 

Neither is correct.

The Saudis funded building mosques for existing Muslim congregations, they didn't provide clerics or day to day funding.

 

Again ... what do you want to tell with this all in my direction? Do you think you can attack me with this all because I'm German?
Even some of your numbers are pure fantasy as these 500k civilians in Dresden for example, please:

Search another German to attack with this all, you addressed the wrong German with my person for it!

 

Bitter Lake is an emotional propaganda documentary.

 

They didn't march into Pristina airport. They drove.

Oh I get it. Russians really are bear on unicycles hence the use of tranquilliser guns.

No there wasn't they simply walked down and had a chat.
I should also point out that the British refused an order to effectively fire on the Russian paratroopers at the airport.

 

OK yes the Russian kids were able to basically jump on the trucks of locals and got a ride there but this is what the official story is and the official story is WRONG!!

Official Story.....The first NATO troops to enter Pristina on 12 June 1999 were Norwegian special forces from FSK Forsvarets Spesialkommando and soldiers from the British Special Air Service 22 S.A.S, although to NATO's diplomatic embarrassment Russian troops arrived first at the airport.

Wrong.

My Team and I were there 3 days earlier.

The whole.....SHOOT THEM...order is VASTLY OVERSTATED!!!!

The Allied Rapid Reaction Corps (ARRC) deployed to Skopje in the Republic of Macedonia during early March 1999. The purpose was to provide unified NATO command for several national contingents including a United States battalion which had been in Macedonia for some years, together with newly arrived British, German, French and Italian battalions. The force was known as Kosovo Force (KFOR). The commander of KFOR was British lieutenant general Mike Jackson, with 3-star rank. His superior officer was US Admiral James O. Ellis, NATO commander for southern Europe, based in Naples. Ellis reported to Wesley Clark, the Supreme Allied Commander Europe. In practice Clark often bypassed Ellis to talk directly to Jackson.

LINK...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Pristina_airport

Clark was really P!$$ED OFF that the Russian's had sent those Russian kids there and it was a MIRACLE that those Russian kids did not get blown to hell by NATO Aircraft as they raced to the Pristina Airport.

Upon hearing of the deployment, American NATO commander Wesley Clark called NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana, and was told "you have transfer of authority" in the area. Clark then provisionally ordered a contingent of British and French paratroopers to be flown in by helicopter to seize the airport by force. Staff officers had grave concerns that helicopters might be fired on by Serb forces and that invasion of Kosovo before the agreed time might cause the Serbs to pull out of the agreement. If the airborne force got into trouble it would have been very difficult to reach them overland through the mountainous country where bridges and tunnels were known to be prepared for demolition.

After those Russian kids got there Clark was worried with the possibility of more Russian troops being flown in even though NATO controlled the airspace.

Clark ordered Jackson to block the runways with the choppers and Jackson refused saying that they could use cars instead.

The thing is those Russian kid's were in no shape to fight anyone!!!

Clark over reacted and the Russian's should NEVER have sent those kids!!

AA

 

Oh Please!!!

Are we perfect? NO!!

But we certainly at least try to limit the outbreak of wars.

If the U.S. did not exist this planet would have broken into WWIII a long time ago!!!

The ONLY reason it hasn't is because no one is crazy or stupid enough to challenge the U.S. Military as you have absolutely no idea what we are capable of.

The ONLY reason these is not at least 20 major wars happening right now is because no nation wan't to risk becoming a TARGET of the U.S. Military.

AA

 

I'm pretty sure that they drove there in their own vehicles which in this case they used APC's.

I doubt that.

I don't think so as Wesley Clark was out of his mind and still is.

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How exactly? If anything the USA has helped to bring the world closer to disaster.

 

200 Russian soldiers were ordered to move out of the NATO base where they were located and cross six hundred kilometers across the country. The soldiers didn't know where they were going. They were tasked to go as fast as possible, however local Serbian citizens often slowed them down.

Several of their APC's broke down and many had to actually HITCH HIKE to get there!!

AA

 

The funny thing is the Russian kids that Hitchhiked got to the airport BEFORE the APC column got there!!

LOL!!!

AA

 

Then you've just agreed with me that they drove and didn't march to Pristina

 

Well the thing is the Russian Soldiers who got there first and you can check on this were given rides close to the airport by locals and they walked in.

The rest showed up later so yes some drove but the thing is they were all lucky as HELL NATO aircraft did not mistake them for Serbs and bomb them!!

And they were under orders to NOT accept food, water or medical from NATO forces ESPECIALLY American Forces as Clark and Jackson talked to their Russian superiors and they kept bringing up that these kids did not even have the supplies or support to be there and that is why the Russian brass told them NOT to accept food, water or medical supplies and we watched as they got very sick as they were drinking water out of a F@#KING drainage ditch and they did not even have enough water purification tablets to allow them to prevent from getting sick.

This went on for many days and finally we could not take watching these kids and they were KIDS....getting any sicker so a deal was worked out and the Brits supplied them

They NEVER should have been sent!!

AA

 

As far as how this applies to this thread the reality is Russia has very little in the way of Force Projection Capability as in order to wipe out the ISIS we need an effective and extremely well supplied Military Force and the best way to do this is to use the NSA, CIA and DIA to locate and identify Terrorist Strongholds and then use FSB Assets on the ground to determine what is the best way to wipe these targets out be it Special Forces and Spetsnaz or U.S. Air Power.

Russian Air power simply does not have the right munitions to use to keep Syrian civilian deaths at a minimum but we do!!

AA

 

Currently Russian Airstrikes have been concentrated upon Syrian Rebel groups and not the ISIS and the thing is the destruction of cities such as Aleppo after the bombings just turns them into breeding grounds for the ISIS.

AA