Russian General: Why Assad can't win the war in Syria

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect our Alpha has been spending so much time on the Science forum talking about space stuff that he's beginning to believe it? :mrgreen:
     
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    We can pinpoint any and all electronic communications thus after we locate where that is coming from we send in Ground Assets then Special Forces.

    AA
     
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    Come on Cerberus, you're still talking to that ignorant poster? He got just about everything wrong about Syria. As a matter of fact AA could be she. Sounds like transgender.


    Just for laughs.

    Who Said "Assad Must Go" And Where Are They Now?

    Oh the irony of it all.

    Who is still President of his country…

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/who-said-assad-must-go-and-where-are-they-now?page=2
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    Do YOU have any idea that either you are using really bad translation software or perhaps you need to brush up on your English because your posted words...." Do you have any idea what you say the nonsense?"....well.....LOL!!

    It is but NONSENSE!!

    LOL!!!

    AA
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    OK....so I am ignorant now?

    Considering I have posted over 12 WORLD CHANGING EVENTS BEFORE THEY HAPPENED.....including the ISIS Bombing of a Russian aircraft.....The Egyptian Military's removal of Morsi.....the collapse of the Russian economy.....etc.....and as far as Syria IT WILL HAPPEN!!

    Assad will be removed it is inevitable!!

    AA
     
  6. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apart from just repeating what you said a few posts ago about what your clever stuff can do, you don't address even one point in mine about what you do after it has done all that clever stuff. I'm beginning to reach the conclusion, Alpha, that if the Pentagon's rationalising is the same as yours then it's no wonder they f**k up so much. Please, leave it to the Russians because I feel that you'd get in their way.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Brilliant link, SS - the losers on the left and the winners on the right? It just goes to show that we're being governed by incompetent fools.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    What have you possibly asked me that I have not answered barring the real stupid questions?

    LOL!!

    AA
     
  9. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Copy to me one question - just one - that I've asked which you think is stupid. Or stop digging - the choice is yours.
     
  10. unbiased institute

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    In comparison to the number of sorties I really don't think so and particularly in Syria
    How exactly do you know this and can you prove it?
    Certainly can't eliminate the possibility of civilian casualties. So far only the RAF has been able to avoid them.
    That's highly unlikely Putin certainly didn't like Obama and we don't know how Trump is going to behave.
    Also the Russian forces have very different ideologies when it comes to war.
    I agree with the principle of what you said.
     
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    "Few terrorists" in Syria have tanks, APCs, MLRSs etc. Besides, Russia doesn't use weapons which the USA wouldn't use in Iraq and Syria. Or maybe the US B-52s and B-1Bs are there to drop New Year petards? What I can't accept is the double standards - American bombs don't kill civilians but Russian ones do. Look, Russia haven't dropped a single bomb in Iraq and Libya - but these countries are the main purchasers of terrorists today which create more terrorirsts than anyone else. Why?
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    Ok THIS ONE is REALLY STUPID and it is not a stupid question because of what it asks it is a stupid question because I had already SPECIFICALLY DETAILED how American Intelligence Agencies such as the NSA and CIA would be used to locate Terrorist Targets such as the NSA Networked Quantum Supercomputers running identification and comparison and cross referencing software that allows the NSA to intercept and record a Terrorist Communication and identify the EXACT TERRORIST and then this information which could be anything from a name, date and location all the way up to the NSA gaining access and control of a Terrorists Cell Phone, Computer or other and perhaps even locking into their GPS to locate their exact position and at that point the CIA would use perhaps Satellite Intel or Recon Aircraft Intel or perhaps one of our Ground Assets and if we could work with Russia we could perhaps get one of the FSB's Ground Assets to either observe the Terrorist HQ or perhaps maybe even get an asset into the HQ.

    If not then we could use both U.S. Special Force or Russian Spetsnaz to observe the target and then determine when, where and how a strike should be used or not as perhaps a Special OP would be required.

    Now I already detailed this out to you and this is how we would be able to determine who to kill and who not to kill so SINCE i ALREADY TOLD YOU YOUR QUESTION IS STUPID!!!

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  13. AboveAlpha

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    The number of flown sorties also include a large number of Recon Sorties as well as Refueling Sorties, Search and Destroy Sorties, CAP Sorties...etc....that are necessary but do not involve Airstrikes on Ground Targets.

    If you knew what I am and what I do you would not be asking me how I know about current FSB Assets on the Ground in Syria.

    We can end the Terrorist Threat BUT NOT WITH HALF ASSES MEASURES!!!

    If an enemy can be broken...completely demoralized to the point they KNOW every time they attempt to strike the result will be the deaths of MANY of their own.....they tend t stop attacking.

    Just ask the Japanese.

    AA
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    Look I am not one of those people who is trying to use the civilian deaths in Syria caused by improper munitions use by Russia as Russia simply does not have either the munitions or the technology to carry out air strikes upon terrorists in Syria located in densely populated civilian areas without killing a lot of those civilians.

    Russia is using what it has for weapons systems, munitions and military technology and it is not like Russia is trying to kill Syrian Civilians as Russia is not.

    But what is needed is for Russia and the U.S. to use what they both do best and work together to wipe out the ISIS.

    Russia EXCELS as far as FSB assets o the ground in Syria and the United States excels in satellite and recon aircraft intelligence as well as the NSA's capabilities and U.S. Military weapons systems and munitions SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO STRIKE TERRORIST TARGETS IN DENSELY POPULATED CIVILIAN AREAS AND LIMIT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES!!

    My point is we need to work together and end this once and for all.

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  15. unbiased institute

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    Its still very inefficient and I'm pretty sure that non-combat sorties would comprise a minority.
    Please come back to reality.
    There's no guarantee that ISIS will just disappear even if they are completely removed from Iraq and Syria.
    ISIS does experience high loses but it doesn't matter so much to them.
    I'm assuming that you're referring to the 2nd World War; then that's a false comparison
     
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    Russia tried from the get-go to have genuine cooperation with the US in Syria. The best they could get is a de-confliction protocol and we see what that got ...... a Russian fighter shot down and a coalition strike on Syrian troops at Deir ez Zor that went on for over 40 minutes because no one would answer the damn phone on the American side!!

    Russia, Syria et al are doing fine without the US's 'help'. Best to just stay out of the way and quit pretending the US has anything to offer in Syria.
     
  17. AboveAlpha

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    If you think that the Russian airstrikes that ASSAD is directing will do anything more than just increase the number of Sunni Extremists entering Syria then you are deluding yourself!!

    The only way this is resolved permanently is to get the Arab League on board and they will not do that until Assad is GONE!!

    AA
     
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    Your post addresses nothing that I posted. Try again.
     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    Why would I address things like that when Russian airstrikes are directed by ASSAD and directed at Syrian Rebels rather than the ISIS??

    This is why we would not work with Russia because we are NOT going to allow Assad to determine what targets to hit!!!

    There is only one way Syria is going to get out of this mess and Assad is NOT in that picture!!

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    As has been amply shown, the US is not the boss of Syria. Besides, is Mosul liberated yet?

     
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    If the US does not hurry up with that no fly zone congress approved all of Saudi Arabia's head chopping Islamic mercenaries trapped in Aleppo will be exterminated in the next couple of weeks.
     
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    Looks that way. Then what .... on to Raqqa?

    Now Egypt has come out in support of the Syrian national army.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...81d170-b15a-11e6-bc2d-19b3d759cfe7_story.html

    CAIRO —Egypt’s president has expressed support for Syrian President Bashar Assad’s military in remarks likely to irk Saudi Arabia and Gulf Arab allies who back Syrian rebels in the civil war.

    Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi said in an interview with the Portuguese TV network RTP that Syrian government forces are best positioned to combat terrorism and restore stability in the war-torn nation.

    Asked if he’d send Egyptian peacekeepers to Syria under a peace deal, el-Sissi said that “it is better that the national army take responsibility” and that his priority is to “support the national army” of Syria.

    Cairo and Riyadh are at odds over the war in Syria. Egypt angered its top financial backer last month when it backed Russian and French draft resolutions on Syria at the U.N. Security Council.
     
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    Okay, supposing a Special OP were required? When they storm the location, and presuming they haven't encountered any IED booby traps when doing so, how would they know who are jihadis and who are civ . . . to be honest I'm fed up with asking the same question over and over again only for you to obfuscate and detract; we're obviously never gonna get on the same wavelength. Oh and I never ask 'stupid questions'. [​IMG]
     
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    It is not a question of whether the U.S. is boss of anyone this is about how to solve the problem in Syria and that will not happen until the Arab League get's involved because they are the one's capable of stopping the continual massive influx of Sunni Extremists into Syria!!!

    They will not do anything until Assad is GONE!!

    Now PUTIN KNOWS THIS!!

    Putin would and WILL throw Assad right under the bus if the deal is right with the U.S. and Putin himself has said several times that Assad would be offered asylum in Russia if and when he leaves office and you can BET ON the reality that the MOMENT Putin get's the right deal offered to him by the U.S. which will involve the U.S. helping to restore the currently collapsing Russian Economy...well at that MOMENT ASSAD WILL HAVE TP PACK HIS BAGS AND PUT ON SOME COLD WEATHER GEAR!!

    LOL!!!

    AA
     
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    It solved so much things in Libya now when Gaddafi is gone :roll:
     

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