AI: Up to 13000 Hanged by Assad in Saydnaya Prison

Yes, and this is an ally of Vlad the Poisoner whom Trump admires so much. Awesome.

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You were screwing with the Middle East way before that. Iraq? Ring any bells?

 

Did you think this was awesome?



Surely, you did.

By the way, when did Trump say he admires Vlad the Invader? I'd be interested to see that quote since butthurt Leftists are so fond of putting words in his mouth.

 

Cowards.

 

Exactly. The RW never supported Assad. But complained to holy hell that obama didn't go and attack Assad. Meaning we would be in support of ISIS. RWers hatred of obama wanted us to saddle up with the fight against Assad and that meant siding up with ISIS. They are not to bright.
Also Assad and Putin are allies. We love Putin, but hate Assad? Do RWers have a clue what they want?

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I can't believe, I can't come up with a word that won't get an infraction, these RWers are. It's like they've not graduated grade school.

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And yet you're calling out those who ally with you on your fourm, those against Assad and Putin, like myself. And give a pass to every RWer in this thread who is a support of Putin, wants Assad ousted, meaning we go agaisnt Putin and side with ISIS.
Pretty f'n ridiculous.

There is nothing good for the USA, meddling in Syria. Or the ME in general for that matter. Cept for that oil stuff.

 

My pleasure:http://www.npr.org/2016/12/30/50758...ssia-trumps-admiration-of-putin-is-consistent

 

So were you.

In fact, 2003 wasn't the first time you were screwing with Iraq and the Middle East, was it?

Setting aside Britain's imperialist antics throughout the centuries, I seem to recall that it was your country that helped draw the dysfunctional borders in the Middle East that have remained a source of conflict in the region for the past 100 years.

You might want to pry that beam out of your eye.

 

Syria's problems were irreversible and Assad knew it. This is an ethnic cleansing and resettlement deal.

 

Yes, we in the sanctimonious and arrogant West have been guilty of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing around where we don't belong for centuries. And I include Britain. You won't find me being an apologist for ideological belligerence in the guise of 'freedom and democracy'. If America wants to continue where we left off then you have only yourselves to blame for the blowback and people flying aeroplanes into your tall buildings.

 

Once again, I'm not seeing the word "admire" coming out of Trump's mouth.

What I do see are the Leftists in one of the Democratic party's most prominent propaganda bullhorns putting that word in his mouth.

 

Perhaps you could point out where any of 'us' here have been supporting Britain's role in this mess, now and in the past? 'We' are not so blind. Relatively recently, 2M of 'us; were on the streets of London protesting against the plans to attack Iraq with many more millions in their homes also against that action.

 

To be fair, Britain and the West are hardly alone in that respect.

And you won't find me pretending that the U.S. and its allies went into Iraq to spread freedom and democracy, either.

Jihadists are going to fly airplanes into our buildings for the same reasons they massacre Shiites, Ahmadis, Yazidis, Hindus and Animists in their buildings. This has been going on for 1400 years - it has nothing to do with "blowback".

 

Just more unsubstantiated
HATE Mongering Venom from the United Snakes in Washington

Amnesty International
“Human Slaughterhouse” Report Lacks Evidence, Credibility,
Reeks Of State Department Propaganda
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/02...ity-reeks-of-state-department-propaganda.html


Hearsay Extrapolated -
Amnesty Claims Mass Executions In Syria, Provides Zero Proof
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/amnesty-report-hearsay.html

Yah got a real Talont for this kind of noise don't Yah Bros.!
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We in the enlightened West have never been out of a conflict. Two world wars within 50 years and countless massacres, invasions, genocides; you name it. We absolutely have no moral high ground to preach from. I can guarantee that if another world war should happen, it won't be Muslims who start it.

https://www.quora.com/When-was-the-...with-each-other-and-there-was-no-ongoing-wars

 

As I recall, some Republicans (McCain, et al) were calling on Obama to support the Syrians who opposed Assad while there was still an opportunity to influence the course of events.

That has never meant supporting ISIS or al-Nusra.

Are you agreeing with the people who have claimed that Obama did support ISIS? I don't. I may be one of Obama's harshest critics but this is one case where I defended the man. The documents that were presented as "evidence" of his support revealed nothing of the sort.

Aside from a few Pravda Forums flunkies nobody in this country loves Putin. RWers have stated that Putin possessed superior leadership skills and did a better job of defending and advancing his country's interests than Obama but that doesn't qualify as love. The Leftists who have deliberately characterized it as such are either liars or dumbasses.

All I did was correct the record after you started attacking your anti-Assad and anti-Putin allies on the Right.

I have never given any of Putin and Assad's supporters a pass, regardless of what side of the aisle they stand on. Furthermore, you're mistaken if you think the only people who oppose Assad are the members of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's Islamist death cult.

I would agree that the situation in Syria reached the point where it has presented a dilemma for both the previous and current administrations. If we attack ISIS we help Assad and his allies, most particularly Iran, which has an even larger stake in Assad's survival than Russia. After letting the Iranians get their hands on $150 billion perhaps we should let them and their lackey in Damascus fight it out with ISIS. At this point I don't know that there's much we can do to influence the military and political outcome in that conflict.

I'm going to let that comment slide, but you should get your facts straight before you start attacking people who agree with you for the most part.

I agree with your sentiment, but the problem in Syria is no longer confined to Syria, so we can't ignore it.

Before I end this post, permit me to make something clear - I hold Bashar al-Assad responsible for this conflict and what's happened to Syria, not Obama. The subject of this thread is typical of what him and his father have subjected the Syrian people and it was only a matter of time before it blew up in his face. To make matters worse, his interference in other countries' affairs encouraged those governments to give him a taste of his own medicine, and that is what turned this into an international conflict.

 

Well, as your article pointed out, the West is not alone in that respect.

No one does, so I guess that levels the playing field.

Too late - some Muslims have already started another world war. The only thing that differentiates this one from its predecessors is that it hasn't been waged on an industrial scale.

 

Oh, come now. You know Amnesty International would never issue a false report.

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http://m.democracynow.org/stories/4685

On December 19, 1990, Amnesty International published an 84-page report on human rights violations in occupied Kuwait. The report stated that, "300 premature babies were reported to have died after Iraqi soldiers removed them from incubators, which were then looted."

This allegation, which was widely reported by the global media, became one of the most often cited justifications for the 1991 Gulf War. On January 9 1991, President George HW Bush cited Amnesty’s report in a letter sent to campus newspapers across the country. In the Senate, six senators specifically cited the story in their speeches supporting the resolution to give Bush authorization to use American forces in Kuwait. That vote ultimately passed by a mere half-dozen votes.

But the most dramatic moment in this story came on October 10, 1990, when a 15 year old Kuwaiti girl, identified simply as Nayirah testified in front of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus that she had personally witnessed 15 infants taken from incubators by Iraqi forces who she said, "left the babies on the coal floor to die." California Democrat Tom Lantos explained that her identity would be kept secret to protect her family.

What was not said at the time is that Nayirah was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US, Saud Nasir al-Sabah. By March of 1991, Amnesty International took the unprecedented move of retracting its report, saying it had become clear that the allegations were baseless.

 

Amnesty International whether have absolutely lost touch with reality, whether consider the readers idiots.

Simultaneous hanging of 50 people is very difficult and huge procedure. 260 such executions (13000 executed) would provide hundreds of incontestable proofs in the form of photos or mass attestations of eyewitnesses.

Execution through hanging — bulky and long. It is necessary only for the purpose of promotion. But what can be promotion in case of secret executions? Secretly execute by means of regular executions or something similar by efficiency.

Only the person absolutely any more not the acquaintance with logic, but with reality of our world can believe in such nonsense.

 

If ISIS is going after Assad, and the USA is going after Assad, whether they join hands to do so, means we are aiding them and they aiding us in the same goal.
Do I agree we did support ISIS, No. But we both had the same goal. And you can be your last $$$ that many RW would make that claim as they already have. It was a lose lose proposition. And still is.

Admiring an enemy over your leader simply because you disagree with his views and think his skills are better is petty.
And trump and many supporters, at least here at PF, admire and want to be friends with Putin. Even though he is Assads biggest ally.
Which is it? Love Putin and hate his biggest ally? I don't think that mixes real well.

There was nothing to correct. This thread has many examples of Putin admiration. And yet those same want to attack Assad. I don't think Putin would stand for that.

Didn't say you did. And actually you agree with me or I agree with you on the Putin, Assad, Obama, USA. But most of the vocal RW doesn't. They admire Putin, and want to oust Assad.

We can ignore Syria. We can't fix it there or anywhere. We are responsible for the most part, Iraq war pretty much f'd up an already f'd up ME.
How many US lives do you want to kill to fix a mess that will never be fixed?
How are you planning to fix it? One has to kill of an ideology. I don't think guns will kill an ideology.

What turned it international. I will imply ignorance on my part. I don't and didn't follow it to any detail I am of the mindset, is the ME can't be fixed. Let them have their own internal conflicts to themselves. Perhaps a bit too simplistic but a hands off approach is better than killing our young for what reason?

 

Dude - Amnesty is based in London, not Washington.

As for unsubstantiated, I presume you're calling the people who were interviewed liars?

I guess we'll just have to wait until the mass graves are unearthed...

No soup for you, muchacho.

I'm all for getting at the truth, Eadora, but citing sources that are even less credible than Amnesty International doesn't help your case.

And what are you doing defending Assad? Did you break your moral compass on the way over here?

 

I've got to be brutally honest. Only an idiot could blame a legitimate president of any country for trying to protect his own citizens from Sunni jihadi hordes unleashed by the USA. Whether some people like it or not, Syria is a sovereign country. Assad was and still is the legitimate president.

Hillary knew she would unleash hell in Syria

Both WikiLeaks and the US State Department have made Hillary Clinton's electronic communication available to public scrutiny. Sifting through these, one aspect has become clear: Clinton had been forewarned about what would happen to Syria.

http://freewestmedia.com/2016/11/04/hillary-knew-she-would-unleash-hell-in-syria/

 

When Assad ordered his troops to kill Syrian citizens 10,000 Sunni conscripts defected.

 

Assad never ordered his troops to kill Syrian citizens and you know it. The areas under him have been safe zones right from the start. Assad ordered his troops to defend the civilians from the terrorists that you support.

From what I read, the true Sunni opposition defected back to Assad's army when they realized they were supporting Washington, Britain, KLA, Qatar, Turkey, etc., and all that they represent.

 

Amnesty International is another one of the George Soros supported organizations. I noticed over the years that who they defend, and who they condemn depends on their political leanings... so I would take what they say with a grain of salt.

 

Oh he certainly did.. It all escalated when school boys were arrested for graffiti, some of the boys were found dead weeks later...

 

I don't see how we can ignore Syria when hundreds of thousands of refugees are winding up in our laps and jihadists are trying to transit in their midst. Furthermore, many of those refugees' kids may grow up to become militant Islamists as so many second and third-generation immigrants have turned out. Unless, we're willing to deal with that over here, we're going to have to work out a way to contain it over there.

I presume you're talking about the jihadists and not Assad?

If so, I agree with you 100% that we have to combat the ideology and for the first time we might have an administration that is willing to do it. For one reason or another neither Bush nor Obama mounted a serious effort to combat the ideology and the propaganda of not only the jihadist groups but the Islamists that support them, as well. This campaign also has to be waged against the governments in the region who are essentially doing the same thing through their schools and media. We've made significant progress over the past 16 years, but we need to do a better job choking the so-called "jihadist pipeline" that funnels recruits into ISIS, al Qaeda and Ansar Allah.

I don't know if you have seen ISIS's propaganda magazine - Dabiq - or their videos but it's some seriously sophisticated stuff. Whoever those psychopaths have working for them are highly skilled professionals.
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