Merkel warns US, Britain no longer reliable partners

Okay. So... protectionist trade policy towards the United States? That's obviously foolish. The end to intelligence sharing? Okay, I think you guys would lose a lot more on that front than we would, but whatever. A willingness to abandon the Baltics or Ukraine to Russia? I don't think you guys would do that.

You're excited about an aesthetic, a certain feeling of independence and power. Great. That feeling doesn't actually mean anything important.

 

We love to live with it, all big banks move from london to Frankfurt.

 

I trust all Americans who voted for Trump..

 

Then honestly, what's the problem? Germany leads Europe. Since we all agree with that, i'm unclear why you seem so angry at the US for acknowledging what you are stating is a simple truth.

 

We will see what it means. Things are changing constantly. Its good to react on Trump. Trump needs attention. What Merkel did was calling him a clown in public. She pushed him down as untrustworthy and reduced him to be a joke. We will see if he changed when he will be im Germany in July. Given the fact that all US media jump on Merkels words and how allergic Trump reacts to such things it is an interesting experiment she started.

 

That depends on what kind of deal comes out of Brexit. The Germans can't afford to be too easy on the UK or too tough on the UK. The UK is one of our big three trading partners, and one aspect of being an exporter-focused economy is that you're very much at the mercy of your customers.

 

The UK produces nothing. Since EU voted in one voice to be harsh with UK i dont see problem

 

It sure is.

Now let's ask a different question, why the hell would bad relations between the US and Germany excite you so much? The United States is second only to France in terms of imports from Germany, and you guys are practically insignificant to the American economy. Like with every other country in the world, the economic leverage is in our hands.

Either power in the EU will become more diffuse, or the EU will collapse as a trading bloc, to the extreme detriment of Germany. Our trading bloc is bigger, and we are certainly more central to ours than you are to yours. The point of this economic dick-measuring is to point out that bad relations are bad for us, and terrible for you.

 

No, but they buy many things. Namely, German things.

 

I do think we should keep the bases if we can. They are excellent power projection facilities, but of course, if Europe wants us out...

 

Some Europeans likely want us out, and it wouldn't be that big a deal. There are numerous countries in the region that really are worried about Russian aggression, all of whom understand that Americans are the only people capable of defeating Russia in a conventional war in Eastern Europe. There are other countries that we could practically buy outright, like Greece. A deal to pay off their debt in return for military basing rights? They'd jump at it.

 

Poland has been begging for an American base, so yeah, there are European alternatives.

 

You follow a "Erst kommt das Fressen und dann die Moral". Ideology. Thats the ideology of a pig.

Whats your problem? Merkel said USA is not trustworthy. Which is a fact. Trump is no partner for us. We change our priorities so we can fullfill what is important for us. With her speech Merkel humilated Trump in the worst way possible. While all US media jump on that and use it against Trump there is deafening silence from White House. Merkel is extremly diplomatic. What she did here was a calculated attack. With one sentence she sunk Trumps europe tour. He cant claim sucess anymore when the German chancellor openly mistrusts him and the french president agrees and says in a interview that ge doesnt take trump serious and made fun about the hand shake. Given the fact both Merkel and Macron blasted Trump at same day looks like it is coordinated.

 

don't do that! lol... don't quote pieces of my posts and take them out of context

 

It seems that's what many in Western Europe believe. They forget who separated their continent in half and who was the main protagonist in ending Soviet aggression. Of course many Europeans supported Communism during the Cold War, and still do.

 

The US had threatened to remove their bases from Germany in the past but Germany certainly didn't want that. They bring in too much revenue for the local merchants..

It was Obama who caused that fiasco, likely to satisfy Putin, and Trump has only been in office a short while. Give him a chance.

Trade Agreements and terrorism would be two naturals.

What 'demands' does Germany have?

 

You have no idea what my ideology is. I'm simply explaining to you the facts about who holds the cards in some kind of American-German split.

I certainly don't advocate the breaking of our alliance, and I don't advocate some kind of trade war between us.

I believe that all mankind holds interests in common, that our project is a shared one.

Who cares? I guess what I'm getting at is that speeches given by politicians are of little interest to me if there don't appear to be any likely concrete consequences. They're standing against Trump. Great. What does it mean?

The fact that you can't answer that question is the whole story.

EDIT: And it's funny that it's the "ideology of the pig" when an American mentions the possibility of using economic leverage against you, when you are so proud of your ability to do it to Greece or the United Kingdom. What was it you said about Greece, pensioners collapsing in the streets? Nice.

I truly hope that the people walking the halls of power in Berlin aren't so arrogant.

 

European media always opposes any non leftwinger US politician. It's not to be taken seriously.

 

There is a reason why the United States Canada Australia New Zealand Argentina and a number of countries I'm forgetting are also heavily founded and populated by refugees from Europe. It's important the United States keep its boot-jack on the European neck

 

Context is such an interesting thing. So many of these tabloids jump on Trump quotes, yet provide no context for them.

 

yes Trump is the only person who are quoted out of context

 

After decades of anti Americanism in Europe I doubt many will be keen to go over yet again to save these people from themselves. They promised WWI was 'the war to end all wars' and just a score of years later they had another even more violent war. They get terribly excited about new economic or social systems and will create horrendous wars and sacrifices in order to impose them.

But what can the rest of the world do about it? Not a lot really.

 

Why did the mods reopen this thread? Oh wait. We all know why.

 

Merkel is a commie.

 

like I said we keep our boot jack on their neck.