A question to and about the evangelical rights support of trump

That is a total cop out. You could use the same argument to elect Hitler.

What you are really doing is admitting that all religion is bs and is really just a bunch of cults. There is no true depth of convictions when those convictions are contrary to whatever suits the fancy of "true believers" today.

 

I could accept the idea of evangelicals criticizing Trump's personal morals if I thought it was a two-way street, with Democrats being just as vocal and indignant about the personal morals of people on their political side, like Hillary Clinton. But I don't see that. I see rationalization, willful ignorance, double standards, and endless excuses. In short, I see this as just partisanship and hypocrisy.

 

That's just dumb.

If I knew Trump was going to slaughter 6 million Jews I wouldn't vote for him.

Honestly, if anyone was going to resemble Hitler it would have been Hillary.

 

Hillary has no record of cheating on her spouse, grabbing *****, being a sexual preditor, cheating small businesspersons, etc, etc.

 

Somehow just can't see Hillary as being stupid enough to start a nuclear war with North Korea. On the other hand it is pretty easy to imagine Trump doing so if his fragile ego appears significantly threatened. I know we would all like to hope is posturing is only posturing but what if he is serious about all his bluster.

 

Trump said he wanted to slaughter thousands of innocent people. And his cult cheered. He said he wants to use extreme torture. And his cult cheered. He called for violence against peaceful protesters. And his cult cheered.

Your argument is that the ends justifies the means. That is about as unchristian as you can get. As I said, by that logic you would elect Hitler.

Oh yes, and Hitler didn't tell anyone he was going to execute 6 million Jews. In fact, even after the war, many Germans still didn't believe it. They had to be forced to tour the death camps. No doubt they would have voted for trump as well.

Trump praises Duterte, who bragged about being a cold-blooded killer and who uses death squads for vigilante justice.

You elected Hitler's best friend. Some christian! LOL!!! Your beliefs are transparently meaningless.

I would bet that even Hitler never had the gall to openly call for torture; at least not until well after he was firmly in control.

 

This has proven one thing for sure: The new Evangelicalism is just plain evil.

No thinking person will ever respect these so-called Christians again. In fact, I now see modern christians as the enemy. I never did before trump. But I sure do now. And I was a Christian for a good part of my life.

 

Support efforts to do the following:
1) Tax all churches.
2) Treat politically active churches as political organizations.
3) Take legal actions to ban religion from being taught to children. No more terrorizing children with horror stories of eternal torture if they don't obey.
4) No one under 18 should be allowed in any church.
5) Take legal action to remove children from homes where they are being terrorized by religious teachings

Freedom of religion doesn't include the right to terrorize children. Children have a right to be religion free until they are old enough to choose to ruin their own lives with religious mumbo jumbo. Religion should be treated like drugs and alcohol - it's just another drug.

This brainwashing, terrorizing, and indoctrination of children into religious cults, has to stop now!

 

Yes reality is far more complicated that your simple strawman and misrepresentation.

Trump is no more a sinner? Of course, just look at all those evangelicals caught with their pants around their ankles. I get it.

 

The real reason evangelicals support trump is because the reunification of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is a pre condition for the second coming when their boy returns and all the evil ones perish in the ensuing conflagration. That's when all the righteous christians get eternal bodies and all that other primitive nonsense.

Seems their salvation is worth their moral sacrifice. Pitiful sophistry.

How will they be judged for abandoning their own morality? Guess they figure righteousness is relative and negotiable.

 

I believe churches today preach politics. If I'm correct, THAT is a big problem. "The things of this world". Ya know? The separation of church and state is in very bad need of strict enforcement.

I was once VERY deep into spiritual practice (to distinguish it from church-going). And it was (and is) very clear to me that any person who attends church, worships, is devout, takes his religion seriously, yet attends a church where politics is preached and things of this world in the political sphere are critiqued and/or judged, and returns to that church again, is the worst sort of lost hypocrite. Such a person is only fooling himself. S/he has no actual relationship with God or Jesus or Krishna, or anything of the spirit and I can quote bible verses that say so in addition to Knowing it.

Chose thou the things of the spirit or the things of this world.

Evangelical churches, from what I'm told, have zero currency with anything of the Spirit.

People need to wake up!

 

I would imagine many of them voted for others in the primaries. When I looked at trump;s crowd during the primaries I saw lots of average working people, not necessarily church attendees. Beer drinkers, not especially religious. People who believe gods exists but not bible thumpers. I know many of that sort here in the south were I live. Trump did not win thumping a bible, or talking to god as bush jr did, he won on economic and illegal immigration issue, his non neocon foreign policy he campaigned on, and rebuilding america. Too bad the dems didn't know what made him so popular with working and middle class people. You know, the same kind of folks who used to keep the dems in power for so long post ww2?

 

One Mind, thank you for opinions, as unlikely as most of them ar.e

 

Theres only two types of humans. Sinners who have accepted forgiveness and sinners who havnt.

Trying to use 'Trump is a sinner' as an argument is merely a display of ignorance (or disingenuousness) of the dynamics of sin, not a mark against Trump.

 

This is kinda funny given the vast support Clinton enjoyed.

We figured the point was during the campaign the Dirty Democrats rounded up all the smut they could pay for. And try to keep trump from winning. It never was the Russians, it has been the Democrats. The more they dig for dirt, the more they look like plain old losers.

 

That smells exactly like what it is.

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So your answer as to why evangelicals support and immoral and unethical man in the white house is because of dirty democrats.

I like your logic. top drawer. really top drawer.

 

Oh? and you think trump has accepted forgiveness and humble himself before god? Okay then, good argument to dismiss his immorality and lack of ethics and lying. sure thing.

 

i speculate on neither. none of my business (or yours).

...leave it to Trump to get the left to start worrying about the holiness of politicians. hes really got you lot chasing ur tails!

 

You are only speculating nothing else, and the speculation is meaningless because it has no context.

 

Is that the image of the brain of a Trump voter?

 

The choice was between Trump and Clinton. It was not between Trump and Jesus. Christians chose Trump because he is the lesser of the two evils they had to choose between. Quite frankly, it is not even close. Clinton is one of the most corrupt figures in US history, public or private. Clinton may well have been the only person that Trump could have beat, and all for the exact same reasons the OP describes.

 

Speak for yourself.

 

Trying to use Obama as some antiAmerican sinner is an enormous display of ignorance.

 

They would have way better staying in the closet then elect a piece of evil and hateful pagan as their leader/ The Clinton is just as bad nonsense is built on 90% lies. You all can make your Clinton is evil list but I've seen them all and it is made up by a majority of complete lies or distortions and you have simply been played by your devil. While I can give you 100 videos of your piece of trash in his own words proving just that, that he is a piece of trash. Evangelical own this and it's all that will ever have to be said about them.